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Saints didn't like the NFL Brees snub on top free agent signings ever.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:48 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:48 am
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:43 am to BRL79
in fairness they have a point - the amount of success he has had since we signed him, not to mention what he has brought the franchise has got to make him at the very least top 10, if not top 5.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:08 am to Thracken13
He is almost definitely the best free agent signing in the history of the NFL. But New Orleans is a small market with a historically bad franchise, so we're an afterthought.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:09 am to BRL79
How is this even a fricking question at thid point????
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:13 am to Brandincookem
You could Make an argument for the Reggie white signing because of the significance, but outside of that signing there has not been another FA that has had more impact.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:22 am to Peazey
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Peazey
Saints didn't like the NFL Brees snub on top free agent signings ever.
by Peazey
He is almost definitely the best free agent signing in the history of the NFL. But New Orleans is a small market with a historically bad franchise, so we're an afterthought.
You're right and wrong.
For the first 20 years of the Saints' existence, 1967-1986, you are right.
For the last 30 years of the Saints' existence, from 1987-2016, you are wrong.
The Saints' record since 1987 is above .500, and includes 10 trips to the playoffs.
The Saints have most certainly NOT been "historically bad" for the last 30 years.....
And it would interest me to know how Brees' incredible stats playing in a stadium in a 'small market' are magically not as good as if he played in a stadium in New York ??????????
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 9:31 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:25 am to BRL79
Wow, that's absurd.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:47 am to MetryTyger
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And it would interest me to know how Brees' incredible stats playing in a stadium in a 'small market' are magically not as good as if he played in a stadium in New York ??????????
Because that's what I said. Smh.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:48 am to BRL79
It's absurd to not include Brees on that list. You could probably make the argument it's the greatest free agent signing of all time all things considered.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:14 am to Peazey
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But New Orleans is a small market with a historically bad franchise,
Dumbest shite I've ready on here in a while
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:35 am to jorconalx
It's the truth, and I think you probably don't actually understand what I said. Which is ironic. Because it's very simple.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:40 am to jorconalx
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But New Orleans is a small market with a historically bad franchise,
Dumbest shite I've ready on here in a while
Well New Orleans is certainly a small market
And New Orleans is a historically bad franchise ranking 28th in winning percentage only ahead of Atlanta
, Arizona, Tampa, and Houston. K
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:01 am to BRL79
Yup.. And that's taking over a horrific franchise at the time.
And he won a Superbowl, with Superbowl MVP as well.. so it's not like he is missing anything.
He completely changed the face of a franchise.
They really have a legit case.
Peyton had a great historical season for Denver a couple years back or so, but that was just a season.. he was pretty mediocre this past season, but they did win 1 superbowl.. however he wasn't MVP and he didn't have a stellar season doing it.. He hasn't really contributed long enough at Denver to justify being thought of ahead of Brees.. seriously.. plus Peyton joined up with a great team just missing a QB any ways. They were built for playoffs right away.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 11:06 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:40 am to Tigers_Saints
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Tigers_Saints
Saints didn't like the NFL Brees snub on top free agent signings ever.
by Tigers_Saints
quote: But New Orleans is a small market with a historically bad franchise,
Dumbest shite I've ready on here in a while
Well New Orleans is certainly a small market.
And New Orleans is a historically bad franchise ranking 28th in winning percentage only ahead of Atlanta , Arizona, Tampa, and Houston.
So, the Saints being above .500 and making 10 playoff appearances in the last 30 years just like...........never happened ????????????
The only thing that counts is the first 20 years ????
The last 30 years was a mirage ????????????
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:17 pm to MetryTyger
Jesus Christ. This isn't that hard to pick up on. We are talking about perceptions and why a national outlet would give the team less attention. Until the last 10 years the most notable thing about the Saints on a national level was the fans identification as the bag heads. This is how the rest of the country sees us--a struggling franchise who was a cinderella story in 2009. It doesn't matter what cherry picked stats you pull out of your arse. Have some self awareness.
They are not a storied franchise like the Cowboys, 49ers, or Packers. They don't have the same following as these teams. This doesn't make the Saints' accomplishments less. It just means that they won't be talked about as much on a national level.
This much detail explaining it shouldn't be necessary for you to get it.
They are not a storied franchise like the Cowboys, 49ers, or Packers. They don't have the same following as these teams. This doesn't make the Saints' accomplishments less. It just means that they won't be talked about as much on a national level.
This much detail explaining it shouldn't be necessary for you to get it.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:29 pm to MetryTyger
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So, the Saints being above .500 and making 10 playoff appearances in the last 30 years just like...........never happened ????????????
The only thing that counts is the first 20 years ????
The last 30 years was a mirage ????????????
No, I literally counted the entire saints history or did you miss that. If anything, you're the one ignoring a statistically relevant period to this conversation.
By the same logic, the last 30 years don't null the first 20. Also, before the Brees era, which is what we are really measuring here aka his impact, the Saints had a grand total of 1 playoff win.
So yes, a historically bad franchise before Breesus and still statistically. I mean it is a statistical fact when you go by regular season W/L % and playoff wins.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 3:40 pm to BRL79
Brees and White are 1a and 1b in top FA signings ever IMO
Posted on 7/7/16 at 4:26 pm to BRL79
In some level of fairness, the Saints have still only been to the playoffs 5 times in 10 years with Brees. That period of time may have still been the best period of time in franchise history, but how does it actually stack up with the other FA's mentioned?
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 4:54 pm to c on z
He's a HoF quarterback who was acquired in the prime of his career via free agency. That is something that just doesn't happen because those players never hit free agency. It was a freak thing because of the injury. I said almost definitely because I was being conservative. I shouldn't have been. He is definitely the best free agent acquisition of all time in the NFL. There's no good argument against it. Even if you want to throw in the team accomplishments are really qb accomplishments argument.
Reggie White was great. But 10+ years of a HoF qb is more valuable than 6 years of a HoF DE.
Reggie White was great. But 10+ years of a HoF qb is more valuable than 6 years of a HoF DE.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:31 pm to MetryTyger
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So, the Saints being above .500 and making 10 playoff appearances in the last 30 years just like...........never happened ???????????
you can pick the 5 best seasons since SP and DB came and you a 58-22 record. That heavily skews the other futile years
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