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re: Realism for today's game

Posted on 11/4/13 at 7:29 am to
Posted by Supernova
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/4/13 at 7:29 am to
TulaneTigerFan

Someone needs to take a lead pipe to your face and end your miserable life. You mouth breathing slack jawed pussy.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 8:08 am to
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I hope it was the pressure but he typically doesn't do great in cold weather.


this has already been discussed and isn't true

quote:

. He was throwing behind guys And under-throwing. I hope it was the pressure


he got hit 5 drop backs in a row at 1 point. He was great in the 1st half
This post was edited on 11/4/13 at 8:09 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48272 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 8:15 am to
OP is correct.

Not only that, but, the Saints players and coaches are, IMHO, doing some serious soul-searching today, and are re-dedicating themselves to the goal.

The Saints are going to be the very best that this roster* can possibly be -- they will give maximum effort.

I hope they get very, very far into the playoffs.

* Injuries and talent-limitations of some roster spots are constraints.



PS Speaking for myself, personally, I would be very happy with winning the NFC South and one playoff win against a Wildcard opponent. That would fill my cup for the 2013 season.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 8:22 am to
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but he has done very well filling in for Harper through the last few weeks.


I don't think anyone would disagree with this, but Bush was playing a lot of snaps before Harper was even hurt.

He was just bad this game. PFF has his overall rating as -2.5 and -2.2 against the rush. He's still +0.3 for the year with this performance though.

Quddus only played 8 snaps, mainly on passing downs.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 8:29 am to
Next 5 games are HUGE
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3505 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 9:49 am to
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I really see these teams having parallel seasons, they are both hitting their slumps about the same time


Saints are 1-2 in their last 3 games. We're not hitting a slump though, right?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 9:55 am to
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Saints are 1-2 in their last 3 games. We're not hitting a slump though, right?



pretty short-sited way to look at it, especially considering how we lost to the patriots.

We blew out a team last week and put up 35 points.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10301 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 10:16 am to
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the Jets aren't a bad team


Cincinnati disagrees with you.

The Saints are what they are: a defensive liability and a one-dimensional offense. If Brees has a bad game, they lose. If he plays lights-out they win. Sure, the two losses came outdoors, but considering that playoff matchups agains Seattle, San Fran & Carolina, not to mention the Super Bowl, would probably be outside, I'm not getting my hopes up for a playoff win this year. I gave up my seat on the bandwagon after the Pats game when the D showed its true colors. Looking at the schedule ahead, 9-7 would be a good finish for this team.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 10:29 am to
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Looking at the schedule ahead, 9-7 would be a good finish for this team.


That's a little harsh.


I see the Saints finishing at 12-4 (#3 seed) and winning one playoff game in the Dome. Hard to go much farther when you can't stop the run and can't run to mitigate the pass rush.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 10:43 am to
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a defensive liability


We were beat up on defense today and allowed outside runs due to missing 2 great running stopping safeties and having the third one in/out of the game with injury. Lofton also missed some snaps

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after the Pats game when the D showed its true colors.


the D did more than enough to win that game

quote:

Looking at the schedule ahead, 9-7 would be a good finish for this team.


please
This post was edited on 11/4/13 at 10:45 am
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 10:45 am to
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I gave up my seat on the bandwagon after the Pats game when the D showed its true colors.


ByeBye,

I blame the offense for the Pats loss.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 10:45 am to
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I blame the offense for the Pats loss.



anybody with a brain would. the offensive line was great in that game too

we were 6-1 after that game but we suck
This post was edited on 11/4/13 at 10:48 am
Posted by putt1058
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
842 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 10:57 am to
7) Our offensive line (even when healthy) CANNOT RUN-BLOCK. We have NO "road graders".
8) DeAngelo Williams KILLS US EVERY TIME WE PLAY THEM.
9) Scam Newton will probably run all over us.
10) WR's need to step it up a knotch. Too many drops.
Posted by putt1058
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
842 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 11:00 am to
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I blame the offense for the Pats loss.


THIS....X 10000000
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10301 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 11:38 am to
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That's a little harsh.


10-6 is probably a little more realistic.
Cowboys-should be a W
Niners-Don't see it, even at home L
@ Falcons-horrible but throw out the records--this will be their whole season. Toss-up
@ Seahawks-L see 2010
Panthers-Might get this one, but they are playing really well right now. Toss-up
@ Rams-W
@ Panthers-L. Outside? December? Cam?
Bucs-W Not as close as last time
So that's 3-3 with two toss-ups. I see 9-7/10-6 & a Wild Card game on the road. Probably somewhere really nice like Green Bay.
This post was edited on 11/4/13 at 11:39 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 11:46 am to
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@ Seahawks-L see 2010



why are we looking to 3 years ago?

quote:

@ Panthers-L. Outside? December? Cam?



Drew Brees plays better in cold weather than he does in warm weather

There isn't a team that is an automatic loss. Seattle has similar issues to the Saints, except against worse teams.

Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10301 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 11:50 am to
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why are we looking to 3 years ago?


Because they still have Lynch and we still have Harper.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 11:56 am to
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1) Colston, Sproles, and a fully healthy Graham.

2) Our OL is struggling and Evans is still hurt, and that is clear. This OL clearly lacks leadership and it is clear that Kromer's replacement isn't even 1/10th of the OL coach he is.

3) Defensively, Saints were missing 2 of their top 3 safeties and the 3rd was hurt multiple times throughout the game, and it is clear the backups aren't that good. I hope this game makes people realize how important M. Jenkins is to this defense's success.


very hard to win when missing so many critical players, I agree with this
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 12:42 pm to
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Cincinnati disagrees with you.



That's been the Jets all year. The week before that they beat the Patriots who are 6-2 and barely lost to those same Bengals. Teams have bad weeks, it happens.

Are the Colts really 20 points better than the 49ers at SF? Teams have off days, injuries, etc, but fact remains Saints have lost to two teams with a combined 12-7 record by a combined 9 points on the road. It happens.

If the Saints win all of their remaining home games only, they'll end up 10-6. They still get to play ATL that has become a dumpster fire and STL. If they win those they end up 12-2 with 2 losses on the road to Seattle and Carolina.

Saints lost to the Rams in 2011 and still were 30 seconds away from hosting the NFC championship game despite having almost no running backs in their last game of the year.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 12:46 pm to
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very hard to win when missing so many critical players, I agree with this



Saints lost that game on an INT in the last 3 minutes of the first half that a WR simply popped up and screwed up.

That is 7 points handed to NY and momentum.

3rd and inches dropped pass.

Missed medium range FG.

Saints players and coaches simply started pressing. That is what hurt this team yesterday and are correctable.

The only real two issues that will continue to linger are poor OL coaching and an insistence on abandoning the running game before the game even starts.
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