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Preseason Position Battles after a week of practice
Posted on 8/8/16 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 9:51 pm
Choose 13 players total
RB - choose 1 or 2
Daniel Lasco
Marcus Murphy
Travaris Cadet
FB - choose 1
Austin Johnson
John Kuhn
Sione Houma
WR - choose 1,2,or 3
Brandon Coleman
RJ Harris
Reggie Bell
Jake Lampman
Jared Dangerfield
Tommylee Lewis
Jordan Williams-Lambert
OL - choose 2 or 3
Landon Turner
Jack Allen
Avery Young
Tony Hills
Tyrus Thompson
Cyril Lemon
Kaleb Eulls
Marcus Henry
Joe Cheek
John Fullington
Jordan Walsh
K - choose 1
Kai Forbath
Connor Barth
DE - choose 0 or 1
Davis Tull
Darryl Tapp
Matt Shaughnessy
LB - choose 1 or 2
Nate Stupar
Michael Mauti
Dillon Lee
Jeff Schoettmer
Tony Steward
CB - choose 1 or 2
Brian Dixon
DeVante Harris
Ken Crawley
Jimmy Pruitt
Brandon Dixon
S - choose 1 or 2
Erik Harris
Roman Harper
Trae Elston
Jamal Golden
RB - choose 1 or 2
Daniel Lasco
Marcus Murphy
Travaris Cadet
FB - choose 1
Austin Johnson
John Kuhn
Sione Houma
WR - choose 1,2,or 3
Brandon Coleman
RJ Harris
Reggie Bell
Jake Lampman
Jared Dangerfield
Tommylee Lewis
Jordan Williams-Lambert
OL - choose 2 or 3
Landon Turner
Jack Allen
Avery Young
Tony Hills
Tyrus Thompson
Cyril Lemon
Kaleb Eulls
Marcus Henry
Joe Cheek
John Fullington
Jordan Walsh
K - choose 1
Kai Forbath
Connor Barth
DE - choose 0 or 1
Davis Tull
Darryl Tapp
Matt Shaughnessy
LB - choose 1 or 2
Nate Stupar
Michael Mauti
Dillon Lee
Jeff Schoettmer
Tony Steward
CB - choose 1 or 2
Brian Dixon
DeVante Harris
Ken Crawley
Jimmy Pruitt
Brandon Dixon
S - choose 1 or 2
Erik Harris
Roman Harper
Trae Elston
Jamal Golden
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 9:51 pm to GMoney2600
These are the 40 guys that I consider locks as of right now:
QB(3)- Brees, McCown, Grayson
RB(3)- Ingram, Spiller, Hightower
WR(3)- Cooks, Snead, Thomas
TE(3)- Fleener, Hooman, Hill
OL(6)- Armstead, Unger, Peat, Strief, Lelito, Kelemete
P(1)- Morstead
LS(1)- Drescher
DT(4)- Rankins, Fairley, Davison, Jenkins(just b/c we don't have anyone else)
DE(5)- Jordan, Gwachum, Edebali, Onyemata, Richardson(we need him for his run defense)
LB(4)- Anthony, Ellerbe, Laurinaitis, Robertson
CB(4)- Lewis, Breaux, Williams, Swann
S(3)- Byrd, Vaccaro, Bell
QB(3)- Brees, McCown, Grayson
RB(3)- Ingram, Spiller, Hightower
WR(3)- Cooks, Snead, Thomas
TE(3)- Fleener, Hooman, Hill
OL(6)- Armstead, Unger, Peat, Strief, Lelito, Kelemete
P(1)- Morstead
LS(1)- Drescher
DT(4)- Rankins, Fairley, Davison, Jenkins(just b/c we don't have anyone else)
DE(5)- Jordan, Gwachum, Edebali, Onyemata, Richardson(we need him for his run defense)
LB(4)- Anthony, Ellerbe, Laurinaitis, Robertson
CB(4)- Lewis, Breaux, Williams, Swann
S(3)- Byrd, Vaccaro, Bell
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 9:54 pm to GMoney2600
Here's my guess. As usual, trying to get some different opinions.
quote:
RB - choose 1 or 2
Daniel Lasco
Marcus Murphy
Travaris Cadet
FB - choose 1
Austin Johnson
John Kuhn
Sione Houma
WR - choose 1,2,or 3
Brandon Coleman
RJ Harris
Reggie Bell
Jake Lampman
Jared Dangerfield
Tommylee Lewis
Jordan Williams-Lambert
OL - choose 2 or 3
Landon Turner
Jack Allen
Avery Young
Tony Hills - I wouldn't be surprised if he made it
Tyrus Thompson
Cyril Lemon
Kaleb Eulls
Marcus Henry
Joe Cheek
John Fullington
Jordan Walsh
K - choose 1
Kai Forbath
Connor Barth
DE - choose 0 or 1
Davis Tull
Darryl Tapp
Matt Shaughnessy
LB - choose 1 or 2
Nate Stupar
Michael Mauti - He was the hardest cut, but I ran out of spots due to keeping 6 cb's
Dillon Lee
Jeff Schoettmer
Tony Steward
CB - choose 1 or 2
Brian Dixon
DeVante Harris
Ken Crawley
Jimmy Pruitt
Brandon Dixon
S - choose 1 or 2
Erik Harris
Roman Harper
Trae Elston
Jamal Golden
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 9:56 pm to GMoney2600
Cadet
Kuhn
Coleman
Allen
Hills
Forbath
Tull
Mauti
D. Harris
Crawley
E. Harris
Harper
Kuhn
Coleman
Allen
Hills
Forbath
Tull
Mauti
D. Harris
Crawley
E. Harris
Harper
Posted on 8/8/16 at 10:01 pm to GMoney2600
I agree with all your choices. Except one.
K
Connor Barth
FIFY. Now it is perfect.
K
Connor Barth
FIFY. Now it is perfect.
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 10:59 pm to GMoney2600
Harper is a lock. They wouldn't have asked him back and he wouldn't have come back if he wasn't.
He may not make the "final 53" in the first week because of the guarantee rules (they'll keep a rookie or cheaper guy so less money is guaranteed, cut him, and then sign and pay the vet week to week with no commitment).
And I doubt Stupar is a lock. He has the inside edge at the moment (or maybe not because they like Mauti also) but with all the young safeties and corners showing out he may not cut it.
Last note would be that we are keeping at least 5 WRs (again week 1 "final 53" may be a bit odd but it always balances back), so it would be keep 2 or 3.
Edit:
So I lied. Last note is I doubt we keep more than 8 OL (we usually keep exactly 8, rarely carrying 9) given the lack of depth and horrible reports out of camp about how bad the 2nd and 3rd string Olines have been.
He may not make the "final 53" in the first week because of the guarantee rules (they'll keep a rookie or cheaper guy so less money is guaranteed, cut him, and then sign and pay the vet week to week with no commitment).
And I doubt Stupar is a lock. He has the inside edge at the moment (or maybe not because they like Mauti also) but with all the young safeties and corners showing out he may not cut it.
Last note would be that we are keeping at least 5 WRs (again week 1 "final 53" may be a bit odd but it always balances back), so it would be keep 2 or 3.
Edit:
So I lied. Last note is I doubt we keep more than 8 OL (we usually keep exactly 8, rarely carrying 9) given the lack of depth and horrible reports out of camp about how bad the 2nd and 3rd string Olines have been.
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 11:07 pm to bonethug0108
Yea, I see Harper & Harris both as locks(as of now), but b/c some people might choose 4 safeties...I wanted to give them all the options.
We have to keep atleast 5 LB's. You're probably right on Stupar not being a lock, and if he doesn't make it then I guess Mauti would be the favorite. I've read a few things on Dillon Lee & Schoettmer , but I'm not sure if they even have a chance.
I agree on the 5 WR's at minimum, but some people on this board like the idea of keeping just 4. I seriously doubt we keep 6...I think a couple of those guys make practice squad though.
We have to keep atleast 5 LB's. You're probably right on Stupar not being a lock, and if he doesn't make it then I guess Mauti would be the favorite. I've read a few things on Dillon Lee & Schoettmer , but I'm not sure if they even have a chance.
I agree on the 5 WR's at minimum, but some people on this board like the idea of keeping just 4. I seriously doubt we keep 6...I think a couple of those guys make practice squad though.
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 11:11 pm to GMoney2600
I can see all those points.
But yeah I feel Mauti has just as good of a shot as Stupar so I see neither as a lock.
Then again we could keep both.
Maybe move Stupar to the bubble guys and change it to pick 1 or 2?
But yeah I feel Mauti has just as good of a shot as Stupar so I see neither as a lock.
Then again we could keep both.
Maybe move Stupar to the bubble guys and change it to pick 1 or 2?
Posted on 8/8/16 at 11:16 pm to bonethug0108
Good deal. I changed it.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 11:39 pm to GMoney2600
Cadet
Lasco
No FB
Coleman
Lewis
Harris
Turner
Allen
Forbath
Tull
Tapp
Stupar
Mauti
Harris
Crawley
Harris
Lasco
No FB
Coleman
Lewis
Harris
Turner
Allen
Forbath
Tull
Tapp
Stupar
Mauti
Harris
Crawley
Harris
Posted on 8/8/16 at 11:42 pm to GMoney2600
Lasco
Murphy
Kuhn/Johnson (I have no preference here)
Coleman
Turner
Allen
Forbath
Tull
Mauti
Brian Dixon
DeVante Harris
Ken Crawley
Erik Harris
Roman Harper
Trae Elston** PS
I broke the rules on DBs, shoot me
Murphy
Kuhn/Johnson (I have no preference here)
Coleman
Turner
Allen
Forbath
Tull
Mauti
Brian Dixon
DeVante Harris
Ken Crawley
Erik Harris
Roman Harper
Trae Elston** PS
I broke the rules on DBs, shoot me
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 12:00 am
Posted on 8/8/16 at 11:54 pm to Mr. Hangover
What's the point of keeping Elston when there's Byrd/Vaccaro/Harris/Harper/Bell in front of HIM? Perfect prax squad candidate.
We have to FIND a way to keep Harris and Crawley on the squad.
JACK Allen will make this team.
The toughest CUTS will be running back. Ingram and Spiller are locks. Don't see them spending a 7 on Lascoe and cutting him bc of the value he brings on ST that Hightower and Cadey don't
Daveson will start at NT and Fairley/Rankins will rotate next to him. This will be a strength of the team. Robertson may eventually end up out snapping John Laurenitis 60%+
Dennis Allen COY
DRIVEMAN OUT
We have to FIND a way to keep Harris and Crawley on the squad.
JACK Allen will make this team.
The toughest CUTS will be running back. Ingram and Spiller are locks. Don't see them spending a 7 on Lascoe and cutting him bc of the value he brings on ST that Hightower and Cadey don't
Daveson will start at NT and Fairley/Rankins will rotate next to him. This will be a strength of the team. Robertson may eventually end up out snapping John Laurenitis 60%+
Dennis Allen COY
DRIVEMAN OUT
Posted on 8/9/16 at 12:00 am to death valley driver
Actually meant to leave him out when I copied and pasted...
Posted on 8/9/16 at 12:09 am to Lester Earl
quote:
No FB
I wouldn't complain. Hooman is capable at FB.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 8:23 am to GMoney2600
I hate carrying 3 QBs. Wish we didn't we could keep one more of the young DBs
Posted on 8/9/16 at 3:51 pm to GMoney2600
Read a article about TommyLee Lewis & Bill Parcells and how they've been friends since he was in high school. He is probably a lock over Coleman.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 8/9/16 at 4:59 pm to Believer504
That's neglecting the fact we may cut people too (looking at Jenkins), so we may end up with an extra spot.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 8/9/16 at 7:54 pm to GMoney2600
I just want to say: this was really fricking hard.
Lasco looks like a really good fit for our system. I think he will be good in the Spiller role if we choose to get rid of him next offseason. We will have to figure something out at returner because there just isn't room.
No brainer. I still think it wouldn't surprise me if we rolled with 0 here and just used Hooman though.
Not seeing much out of these other guys. With Spiller and Lasco on the roster we roll with 5.
Allen is looking like a stud in camp. We need a little insurance incase shite goes wrong with Unger contract. Eulls has made the transition well. With Peat serving as the backup T, I think we roll with two interior guys and keep Hills on speed dial if there is an injury.
Forbath has been better. Either will be fine though, seems like they're both kicking arse (geddit?).
Tull hasn't been given enough of a chance yet.
Gotta have both of these guys. Solid ST + backups.
I am really, really stumped here. I have 10 out of 13 spots filled and I really want to keep Harris, Crawley, Harris and Harper. This is going to be really tough on the team. DeVante Harris and Crawley have looked too good in camp to not get a shot at a really shitty other team's roster if we cut them. When you have solid talent, you have to sign them. I would really like to keep Brian Dixon (he is by far our best ST player) but roster room is a major issue at this point so one of these guys will have to step up there.
Harper takes the fall here. I really want to keep him for his leadership but I choose young talent.
As much as I believe in Grayson, if he doesn't show something in the preseason I wouldn't be surprised to see them cut bait and keep Harper or maybe Murphy.
quote:
RB
Daniel Lasco
Marcus Murphy
Travaris Cadet
Lasco looks like a really good fit for our system. I think he will be good in the Spiller role if we choose to get rid of him next offseason. We will have to figure something out at returner because there just isn't room.
quote:
FB
Austin Johnson
John Kuhn
Sione Houma
No brainer. I still think it wouldn't surprise me if we rolled with 0 here and just used Hooman though.
quote:
WR
Brandon Coleman
RJ Harris
Reggie Bell
Jake Lampman
Jared Dangerfield
Tommylee Lewis
Jordan Williams-Lambert
Not seeing much out of these other guys. With Spiller and Lasco on the roster we roll with 5.
quote:
OL
Landon Turner
Jack Allen
Avery Young
Tony Hills
Tyrus Thompson
Cyril Lemon
Kaleb Eulls
Marcus Henry
Joe Cheek
John Fullington
Jordan Walsh
Allen is looking like a stud in camp. We need a little insurance incase shite goes wrong with Unger contract. Eulls has made the transition well. With Peat serving as the backup T, I think we roll with two interior guys and keep Hills on speed dial if there is an injury.
quote:
K
Kai Forbath
Connor Barth
Forbath has been better. Either will be fine though, seems like they're both kicking arse (geddit?).
quote:
DE
Davis Tull
Darryl Tapp
Matt Shaughnessy
Tull hasn't been given enough of a chance yet.
quote:
LB
Nate Stupar
Michael Mauti
Dillon Lee
Jeff Schoettmer
Tony Steward
Gotta have both of these guys. Solid ST + backups.
quote:
CB
Brian Dixon
DeVante Harris
Ken Crawley
Jimmy Pruitt
Brandon Dixon
I am really, really stumped here. I have 10 out of 13 spots filled and I really want to keep Harris, Crawley, Harris and Harper. This is going to be really tough on the team. DeVante Harris and Crawley have looked too good in camp to not get a shot at a really shitty other team's roster if we cut them. When you have solid talent, you have to sign them. I would really like to keep Brian Dixon (he is by far our best ST player) but roster room is a major issue at this point so one of these guys will have to step up there.
quote:
S
Erik Harris
Roman Harper
Trae Elston
Jamal Golden
Harper takes the fall here. I really want to keep him for his leadership but I choose young talent.
As much as I believe in Grayson, if he doesn't show something in the preseason I wouldn't be surprised to see them cut bait and keep Harper or maybe Murphy.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 8/9/16 at 9:25 pm to GMoney2600
Lasco will make it just for ST. Can play on kickoff teams.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:59 pm to bonethug0108
If I recall correctly, Stupar signed a 3 yr 14 million dollar deal. I would think that makes him a lock to make the team.
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