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re: PFF grades Saints draft class A+

Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:46 pm to
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hope Latt plays for us next year


Depends on trade value. If we can get something substantial, move on.
Posted by uptowntiger84
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:29 pm to
Finally a full draft class for 2025 is a possibility for the new head coach. Just wish we could have had a clean salary cap to go along with the draft picks.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 12:00 am to
I’d compare this draft to buying a dishwasher


You didn’t really want to do it, and you won’t brag to your friends about it, but it’s something you had to do for the future
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22378 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:12 am to
The Saints employed my fantasy football draft strategy. Don’t try to be the smartest guy in the room and find the diamond in the rough. Go with consensus highly rated prospects still on the board and leave your emotions at the door (OMG why do they hate LSU guys!!!)
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 8:13 am
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4465 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:24 am to
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Fuaga for Ram, Kool Aid for Latt, Spencer for Haener/Peterman/Mond, etc.)


If you believe this is equal player for player, the Saints have made significant progress in cleaning up the salary cap. How is that alone not a win in your view?
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:35 am to
It was a great draft. Got very helpful players and didn’t mortgage a future draft for it. We need young help across the board and this is the way to do it.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:18 am to
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This really was a great draft. Good value from top to bottom.

For the first time in a while, I can't say the Sants added a player that made the roster better on-paper than the season before. It took this great draft just to remain at par.


I think this is my problem with the draft. I didn’t want to trade up and I didn’t dislike any of our picks.

But this draft was so deep and you saw teams like the Eagles, Bengals, & Packers get appreciably better with their picks.

Even if you take out the Caleb Williams pick, the Bears only had four other picks, but they were guys who will play for them. (Odunze, Amegadjie, Taylor and Booker)

I feel like we got two good players and several lottery tickets. We weren’t good last year and we didn’t really get better.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10572 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:28 am to
It was an OK draft. Most besides Ford were at or below slot expectation. We didn't give anything away for future drafts.

About the best you can expect for the Saints.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:38 am to
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Most besides Ford were at or below slot expectation.


The consensus mock draft database had Fuaga going 16th on average but no consensus team

Mckinstry was consensus 25th. Big win there.
Posted by Geaux14999
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:20 am to
To be fair, the Bears have a pretty terrible roster outside of the WR room and one Edge. They could have drafted an almost entire roster that could play this year.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Member since Sep 2011
31590 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:16 pm to
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I think Lattimore is definitely gone after June 1st. Due to the depth we have as well the financial savings we get.



Yep. But he’s not the only one. If we don’t make the playoffs again, which we won’t, I can see us moving on from Carr too and just eating the cap, which is way less a year from now.

Save money, get rid of DA and Carr, then let the new coach see what he has in Rattler/Haener. If nothing is there after one year, you’ll be in position for the coach to take the QB he wants
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:36 pm to
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I’d compare this draft to buying a dishwasher You didn’t really want to do it, and you won’t brag to your friends about it, but it’s something you had to do for the future



It was our best draft since 2017. It won’t come close to being that good but a lot of people don’t give the 2016 draft enough credit.

There weren’t a ton of sexy picks. Rankins was a solid piece for us but he was a DT and that pick was viewed a lot like the Fuaga pick. Not sexy but necessary. Then our next three picks were Michael Thomas, Vonn Bell and Onyemata. Most of those guys were really good to great players for us.

Thomas and Bell were obviously 2nd round picks but Onyemata was a 4th. It wasn’t a home run draft like 2017 BUT it got us started back in the right path. We may not end up with any All Pro type players from this class like Thomas, but the type of players we took were def above average starter caliber types like Vonn Bell, Rankins and Onyemata and those go a long way in rebuilding a roster.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31590 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:41 pm to
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For the first time in a while, I can't say the Sants added a player that made the roster better on-paper than the season before. It took this great draft just to remain at par.



That’s what happens when your organization has missed on a lot of picks over the years and your former elite talent is either getting older or just flat out getting worse. The important thing was that they didn’t trade future assets and are likely going to be attempting a soft reset after this year.


And when you do something like that you need drafts like this one that inject the roster with quality talent that can be a building block for future drafts. But just to be clear, the Saints need AT LEAST two more drafts like this one (and find a QB/Coach) to get back to the top half of the NFL
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:45 pm to
If last year's draft was 2015, this is equivalent to 2016 and limited resources. Just get me a couple plus starters and a couple of depth pieces from this draft and its a solid draft IMHO.

2015 - Andrus Pet (despite everyone hating him) and a steady veteran in PJ Williams, depth with Tyeler Davison.

2016 - Sheldon Rankins (solid starter, borderline breakout before injury), Michael Thomas (elite WR before the injury), Vonn Bell (solid starter), David Onyemata (flyer, ended up being solid starter).

Hopefully Fuaga and McKinstry both show above average starter promise, we just need to get depth pieces with 1-3 more guys and that's a solid 2 year start to fix some issues.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31590 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:57 am to
And it’s not JUST the draft to me. It’s the UDFA’s we have added as well. Our 2016 UDFA class was weak. I already think our 2024 UDFA class will nab us a player or two
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