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re: Name a bust that the fans wanted and the saints didn't pick.

Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:22 pm to
Doesn't exactly fit the description, but many people lost their shite when Glenn Dorsey was picked ahead of us and everybody knew we were going DT.

Ellis was average for a couple of years and crap for the rest, has already been out of football for a while, and he is still better than Dorsey.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
4377 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:32 pm to
One is still playing football, the other was forced to leave because he sucked. I'll let you figure out which one was worse
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5036 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:36 pm to
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One is still playing football, the other was forced to leave because he sucked. I'll let you figure out which one was worse


To be fair to Ellis, he walked away. He had signed with Chicago and was going to play. He was not exactly forced to leave. His heart was not in it I guess.
Posted by Tigerclassof19
Member since Mar 2015
861 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:44 pm to
Everyone (including myself) wanted Jarvis jones. glad we took vaccaro instead
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5193 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:22 pm to
Dorsey was forced to play out of position for the majority of his career. He is a good player, and he is definitely better than Ellis.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:31 pm to
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Dorsey was forced to play out of position for the majority of his career. He is a good player, and he is definitely better than Ellis.



The myopia is freaking astounding. If Dorsey went to Virginia Tech, you wouldn't be defending him. I don't understand why the defense of Dorsey is "well...he's still in the NFL." Collecting an inflated paycheck for literally 16 tackles on the 29th best rushing defense, and your job is to plug up the running lanes.

Sedrick Ellis could step onto a field 3 years out of football and do at least as well.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32999 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:36 pm to
Jarvis Jones hasn't set the world on fire. I'll admit to having a mini-meltdown when we picked Vaccaro over him.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10943 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:48 pm to
Yeah, I wanted Jarvis jones too.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:49 pm to
Am I the only one on this board who thought Jones was too injury-prone and hadn't done enough to take in the draft?

At least, I wasn't all that excited about the prospect.
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1623 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:19 pm to
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Ellis was average for a couple of years and crap for the rest, has already been out of football for a while, and he is still better than Dorsey.


Dorsey has started for TWO teams, and has never looked back. He has played out of position his entire pro career at NT and DE. Dorsey has yet to play his natural position in the NFL. 3-4 based defenses doesn't allow him to play the cock-nose position at DT his is more tailored to play. I was shocked when KC took him and then his decision to sign with SF. He's may be past his prime now (30), so we'll never know what he could've been in a true 4-3 defense.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 8:08 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91653 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:21 pm to
Drew Brees really hung him out to dry.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:30 pm to
I was nervous about Jones' injury history, but he had shown flashes of being a dominating pass rusher in college. I thought he was worth the risk. I thought that he was a sure thing if he got past the injury concerns. Turns out that he hasn't even been good when healthy as far as I know. I was dead wrong about him.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28514 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:31 pm to
Randy Moss

He'll have one in Canton, OH.
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1623 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:43 pm to
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The myopia is freaking astounding. If Dorsey went to Virginia Tech, you wouldn't be defending him. I don't understand why the defense of Dorsey is "well...he's still in the NFL." Collecting an inflated paycheck for literally 16 tackles on the 29th best rushing defense, and your job is to plug up the running lanes.

So returning after missing an entire season with a torn bicep doesn't contribute to his playing time? Also, you conviently left out the fact that his knee was blown out during the season as well. Ellis while here was serviceable and he made some plays, but look at the stats. Dorsey was better at finding the ball over the years and sack totals were lower because of scheme. Dorsey has played defensive end at 6'1" 300 lbs, you can at least admit he wasn't set up to fully succeed in that aspect.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Sinister1
Metairie
Member since Dec 2007
1872 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:51 pm to
Matt Leinart
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30139 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:05 pm to
I remember the "damn Pittsburgh always lands dominant defensive players wherever they draft"
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10943 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:35 pm to
I guess that my point with this thread is that the collective football iq is pretty good when it comes to the draft. I don't think there are many players that saints fans wanted that ended up being busts.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36445 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:40 pm to
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Taylor Mays was a safety out of USC that a lot of people wanted. Dude has been terrible.


first that came to mind
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36445 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:41 pm to
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Reggie Bush.. oh wait, y'all did pick him..



and he helped us win a super bowl. Must suck that the Cowboys haven't won a super bowl in your 16 year old life time huh
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:41 pm to
Aaron Hernandez over J Graham.
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