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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:45 pm to TigerBait1127
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Kenny Stills Year Two
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A free running, fast receiver at 4 seconds running, Drew cannot hit them in stride.
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And then he can put it 45 yards down field between defenders too:
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and none of your examples are hitting a free running receiver in stride.
This is what it looks like. LINK
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 5:05 pm to BTRDD
Sucks that we have a qb that can't throw a deep ball even though he has top 3 deep ball numbers in the NFL. Makes perfect sense.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:48 pm to Melvin
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Sucks that we have a qb that can't throw a deep ball even though he has top 3 deep ball numbers in the NFL. Makes perfect sense.
Oh Geez, don't say that on this board. They will hang you by your thumbs even though it's the truth.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:20 pm to BTRDD
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Oh Geez, don't say that on this board. They will hang you by your thumbs even though it's the truth.
he was mocking you
and the one to moore was as in stride as it can get and almost the exact same distance. It was also in week 17 of the 2013 season. Derp derp derp
Hell, the one to Joe Morgan against the Giants was actually thrown further than all of those. He just put that ball around 3 defenders. Same with the one against the Falcons between 2 defenders.
Way more impressive than the devery catch
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:45 am to TigerBait1127
Let the season play out. Sure there will be some deep pass completions where Stills / Cooks will wait for the ball because Brees can't hang it out there anymore, but they will catch them and go to the ground because the coverage catches up to the pass, and we will be happy because it's a big first down. Then Brees will throw a pass to Graham that no one can defend. It will be a TD all the same. However, it doesn't change the fact that Brees does not have that deep ball like he did.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:03 pm to BTRDD
Did you ever stop and think that perhaps drew throws a safer ball when the receiver is absolutely wide open?
I've already shown that he can throw the ball 50 yards between defenders. He hit a receiver in stride for a 50 yard touchdown in the last home game we had
If what you said is true, his yards per deep attempt would be less than the best in the NFL. That means he's hitting his targets and giving them room to run
The crazy thing is that his deep ball was on pace to be his best ever early in the season before Charles Brown forgot how to block and sproles got injured. The running game opens up the deep ball as we saw in 2009, 2011 and with the seahawks
I also never said Brees' deep ball is as good as it used to be. He had the best deep ball in NFL history. He is still throwing it as well as anyone despite not having an established deep threat, no running game, and an inconsistent oline. When we protect him, our offense dominates
I've already shown that he can throw the ball 50 yards between defenders. He hit a receiver in stride for a 50 yard touchdown in the last home game we had
If what you said is true, his yards per deep attempt would be less than the best in the NFL. That means he's hitting his targets and giving them room to run
The crazy thing is that his deep ball was on pace to be his best ever early in the season before Charles Brown forgot how to block and sproles got injured. The running game opens up the deep ball as we saw in 2009, 2011 and with the seahawks
I also never said Brees' deep ball is as good as it used to be. He had the best deep ball in NFL history. He is still throwing it as well as anyone despite not having an established deep threat, no running game, and an inconsistent oline. When we protect him, our offense dominates
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:11 pm to BTRDD
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BTRDD
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:31 pm to bonethug0108
If Brandon Coleman does make the team and does get playing time I think Stills might be the one he splits time with
Can't remember the last time we had such an explosive group of receivers.
I don't post much but I did want to throw out that Cooks reminds me of a faster Joe Horn (when he was in his prime)
Can't remember the last time we had such an explosive group of receivers.
I don't post much but I did want to throw out that Cooks reminds me of a faster Joe Horn (when he was in his prime)
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:01 pm to BTRDD
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Gee, 20+ yards aren't hard to get when you have Jimmy running for 4 seconds and can out jump everyone.
Jimmy Graham had 8 of the 29 deep receptions for 321 yards and 5 TDs.
So completely taking the best TE in the NFL, Brees finished 7th in the NFL in deep yards, 5th in touchdowns, while only throwing 2 interceptions. Still the best rating in the NFL and the best deep rating of his career
In 2012, he would finish 5th in yards and 6 in touchdowns (he had 5 of the 36 deep completions)
We did finish 33rd in Time Until Sacked though at 3.72 -> the best were over 4 (4.75) like you suggested.
He got rid of the ball a lot quicker this year, probably by design. We basically started 2 different rookies as our burner the last 2 seasons. In the days you are talking about, we had 2 burners --> Meachem and Henderson which equals more opportunities to go deep
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:35 pm to BTRDD
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BTRDD
Everybody in this thread is just mad that Drew can't throw a deep ball like B. Harris. I got you brah.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:45 pm to TigerBait1127
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I've already shown that he can throw the ball 50 yards between defenders. He hit a receiver in stride for a 50 yard touchdown in the last home game we had
I don't believe any of your clips showed this. Not even the one to Stills.
What did I say? 4 seconds and hit a free running receiver in stride down field. He doesn't have that arm anymore.
You only want to see what you want to see. and philly444 can watch the plays this year and see how the receiver will have to drag their routes adjusting to behind throw.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:50 pm to BTRDD
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Oh Geez, don't say that on this board. They will hang you by your thumbs even though it's the truth
LULZ
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:54 pm to TigerBait1127
I'm not going to defend BTRDD, he's a grown man (I assume), but I understand what he's trying to say. The common theme of all those throws (except the Giants one to Morgan) is that they were all indoors. Drew is a good QB, the system makes him a great one. That's not debatable. However, his weak arm is absolutely an issue in wet and windy conditions. His arm isn't strong enough to drive the ball in weather. Our coach knows this though and hopefully we get homefield and don't have to worry about it this year. Indoors his deep passing is fine, its not on a Aaron Rodgers clothsline, but its effective. Outdoors there are big issues.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:56 pm to BTRDD
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What did I say? 4 seconds and hit a free running receiver in stride down field. He doesn't have that arm anymore.
The clip to Moore shows that in the last game of the season. It was the same distance as your example. Further, I've provided video clips of him throwing the ball FURTHER than your example clip, yet perfectly placed between multiple defenders. So despite your bullshite, how does he throw the ball further while not possessing the arm strength?
This one fits too, but not nearly as impressive
His best one IMO from 2011
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You only want to see what you want to see.
I've backed up my opinion with statistical evidence. You've backed up yours with absolutely nothing.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:09 pm to KindOfABigDeal
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I'm not going to defend BTRDD, he's a grown man (I assume), but I understand what he's trying to say. The common theme of all those throws (except the Giants one to Morgan) is that they were all indoors. Drew is a good QB, the system makes him a great one. That's not debatable. However, his weak arm is absolutely an issue in wet and windy conditions. His arm isn't strong enough to drive the ball in weather. Our coach knows this though and hopefully we get homefield and don't have to worry about it this year. Indoors his deep passing is fine, its not on a Aaron Rodgers clothsline, but its effective. Outdoors there are big issues.
Oh Lawd, you gonna get run out of town.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:15 pm to BTRDD
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Oh Lawd, you gonna get run out of town.
you're so brave. I've backed mine up with empirical evidence, you haven't backed anything up.
"You only see what you want to see"
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:54 am to BTRDD
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:56 am to BTRDD
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I don't believe Kenny Stills, Morgan or Cooks are deep threats. Why???? Drew Brees cannot throw the deep ball. If those receivers run free for 4 seconds, Drew cannot get them the ball. Drew will have to hit them in stride at 3 seconds. If the protection or play goes tpo 4 seconds or more, all three will have to wait for the ball and the coverage will close. I'd love to see them sith the 2006/2009 Drew Brees.
I got ripped a new one for saying Drew Brees wasn't hitting the long ball like years back. Well, sounds like others are saying the same thing: LINK
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:34 am to BTRDD
Citing bleacher report
LOL
LOL
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