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Posted on 8/10/16 at 3:37 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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Glad we extended him for being a whiny bitch last offseason.
Exactly.
Somebody should bump that thread. It was a terrible idea. 90% of the people on here said to go ahead and give him more garunteed money. That seems to have worked out well.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 3:39 pm to blueboxer1119
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Somebody should bump that thread. It was a terrible idea. 90% of the people on here said to go ahead and give him more garunteed money. That seems to have worked out well.
lemme guess, you voiced against it?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 3:46 pm to Chad504boy
I'm against giving any player a raise in the middle of a contract unless it's an extension.
There was no excuse for caving to the whining.
There was no excuse for caving to the whining.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 3:49 pm to blueboxer1119
quote:looking back, it was a wild offseason of deals that some were for better and some absolutely killed us.
I'm against giving any player a raise in the middle of a contract unless it's an extension.
There was no excuse for caving to the whining.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 3:53 pm to Chad504boy
I was against the contract. He's a great player and has a hell of a heart, but buisness is buisness. It's coming back to bite into our cap. Dumb move on loomis.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 3:55 pm to Sparkplug#1
Doing this kind of crap is the reason we have so many bad contracts. There's no excuse for it.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 3:58 pm to blueboxer1119
quote:i literally can't think of any other scenario we've done such a thing. keenan was an unusual instance, he was the heart and fight of our defense at the time. obvious the following injuries was horrible timing and definitely gives us short end of stick.
the reason we have so many bad contracts.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 4:03 pm to Chad504boy
Him being Ironman and playing through so many injuries is definitely biting us
Posted on 8/10/16 at 4:18 pm to Chad504boy
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keenan was an unusual instance, he was the heart and fight of our defense at the time
He was great in 13, and average as frick in 14. He had done nothing to deserve an extension to that point. Loomis got played.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 4:24 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
Did any of you truly think he would come back healthy? Jesus we have some damn dead money tied up 
Posted on 8/10/16 at 4:28 pm to saintsfan1977
I think it's funny people are acting surprised. I didn't honestly expect him to make it to the bye week
Posted on 8/10/16 at 4:29 pm to Chad504boy
Didn't we give Junior a ton of money before he was an UFA?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 4:39 pm to blueboxer1119
This could be the reason we tried to sign Josh Norman. I think its time to say good bye to KL.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 4:42 pm to blueboxer1119
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Didn't we give Junior a ton of money before he was an UFA?
We gave him a 3yr/7.5mil contract going into 2013 when he was a RFA. The season prior, he put up 5 sacks and a good bit of pressures for a situational 3rd down rusher in 12 games (something like 30 pressures, 190 snaps).
He responded with a 12 sack season the season after in 2013.
We ended up extending him an additional 4 years at 41.5mil in 2014. Which would have made the remainder of his contract going through the 2019 season for a total 6yrs/46.5mil (7.75mil/yr) a HUGE bargain and probably one of the reasons why he became bitter when he posted another 10 sack season when everyone else and their mom started getting $$$$.
The problem came after the 2014 season, following the "frick sean" video but prior to the whipping video (IIRC) that Loomis ended up restructuring his contract and that is why we had to eat 20+mil in dead money after we cut him that same offseason.
The contract itself was genius, the idiotic part was restructuring it and then cutting him.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 8/10/16 at 4:42 pm to blueboxer1119
We signed him to an extension
Posted on 8/10/16 at 4:51 pm to saintsfan1977
This isn't surprising at all. Just watch his "comeback" videos on IG, it's not pretty
Posted on 8/10/16 at 5:08 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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Glad we extended him for being a whiny bitch last offseason.
He wasn't extended, and it wasn't last offseason.
They converted his 2016 roster bonus into a signing bonus, which already would have been paid, and converted part of his 15 and 16 base to a signing bonus
His 2017 year remained untouched in the deal, but it allowed the Saints some flexibility with their cap.
So it really hasn't impacted us much unless you think we would have cut him in 2015
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He was great in 13, and average as frick in 14. He had done nothing to deserve an extension to that point.
He fought through injury in 2014 while players around him quit on the team.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 8/10/16 at 5:13 pm to Sparkplug#1
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buisness is buisness
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Dumb
Posted on 8/10/16 at 5:30 pm to BRL79
Figures.....LSU is having injuries now it's the saints turn then the pelicans
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