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How far is Brees from the HOF?
Posted on 9/22/09 at 2:58 am
Posted on 9/22/09 at 2:58 am
Marinos record?
A ring?
nothing, hes in?
i think a ring might just do it for him, especially if he plays another 5 or so years with solid numbers
A ring?
nothing, hes in?
i think a ring might just do it for him, especially if he plays another 5 or so years with solid numbers
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Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:03 am to LSU Red24
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Marinos record?
A ring?
One of the two
preferably both :)
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:41 am to LSU Red24
Roughly 1,050 miles
Posted on 9/22/09 at 6:20 am to JJ27
If no ring or record, 2 more Pro Bowls.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 10:33 am to Shoulderchoke
He needs a ring and about 5-6 more years of 4,000 plus yard seasons and I don't know how you keep him out.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 11:22 am to LSU Red24
If he gets a ring in his career and has another 4-5 solid years i think he's in.
Look at Warner's numbers, for example. After the last Superbowl everyone was making him a HOF lock.
Well Brees' numbers are already roughly equal to Warners. And Given that Brees is 8 years younger than Warner, he's gonna blow by him in every category.
Plus the MVP Brees will win this year wont hurt
Look at Warner's numbers, for example. After the last Superbowl everyone was making him a HOF lock.
Well Brees' numbers are already roughly equal to Warners. And Given that Brees is 8 years younger than Warner, he's gonna blow by him in every category.
Plus the MVP Brees will win this year wont hurt
Posted on 9/22/09 at 12:10 pm to LSU Red24
If he only plays 2-3 more years, I think he needs an MVP for starters. Unfortunately, a ring is probably necessary as well, which I think is a silly criterium.
If he plays another 7 years and keeps up what he is doing, then he is a lock for the HOF.
If he plays another 7 years and keeps up what he is doing, then he is a lock for the HOF.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:07 pm to eyeran
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Unfortunately, a ring is probably necessary as well, which I think is a silly criterium.
Why do you think considering whether a player ever won a championship is silly? I'm not saying some players should not be in b/c they never won a title (like Marino) but it's not silly.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:09 pm to tigerfan34
spitting distance
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:16 pm to tigerfan34
because winning a championship isn't a qb stat.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:16 pm to tigerfan34
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Why do you think considering whether a player ever won a championship is silly? I'm not saying some players should not be in b/c they never won a title (like Marino) but it's not silly.
its silly because you get assclowns like Ben Roth who have the worst superbowl ever as a qb but have a phenomenal supporting cast and get called 2 time superbowl winners.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:22 pm to tigerfan34
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Why do you think considering whether a player ever won a championship is silly?
because it requires 21 other players, not counting special teams, to win a super bowl. I have yet to see one man win any game in the NFL. this isn't tennis. I think it is extremely unfair to hold SB's as a necessary criterium to determine if a player is great or not. now I am not saying that it should not be considered at all, but it should be low on the list when deciding if a player is great and HOF worthy or not.
Payton Manning has won only one SB, but he has been the greatest QB the last 10 years. The reason they haven't won more than that is not due to his play, but rather due to a piss poor defense for most of his time in Indi. While he has played poorly at times, quite often it is due to his trying to make up for the defense's deficiencies.
Drew Brees has been unbelieveable the last 3 seasons for us, but does that make him any less of a QB for not winning a SB? Hell no! It's that he has not had a defense worth a damn these years, and it is necessary that every other player on a team contribute to the success of a team
Posted on 9/22/09 at 9:16 pm to JJ27
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Roughly 1,050 miles
:rimshot:
Posted on 9/22/09 at 9:26 pm to alajones
Barry sanders couldn't sniff the super bowl but he did just fine
Posted on 9/23/09 at 12:33 am to tigerfan34
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Why do you think considering whether a player ever won a championship is silly? I'm not saying some players should not be in b/c they never won a title (like Marino) but it's not silly.
Sure 2 players with equal stats and 1 has a couple of championships and the other doesn't, I understand the guy with the ring is better.
But if Brees has a few more superb years like he's had but doesn't win a Super Bowl, is Roethlisberger really better than him? Roethlisberger is 1 more SB away from being a sure fire HOFer.
THAT is WAY too much emphasis put on SB rings.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 1:54 am to shel311
Stop!!! Wait until he is done. Let him have a career. You know...chicken...wait...hatch...etc.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 3:47 pm to LSU Red24
Can you give me a legitimate reason he should even be considered so far?
please don't go the yardage up and down the field route or we have to nominate the groundskeeper too.
yardage means 1 of 2 things- a qb played for mike martz or they were behind all the time and had to pass every down.
please don't go the yardage up and down the field route or we have to nominate the groundskeeper too.
yardage means 1 of 2 things- a qb played for mike martz or they were behind all the time and had to pass every down.
Posted on 9/24/09 at 1:30 pm to gettingold
he's got a distinctive mark
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