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How did Drew not win MVP of the league in 09?

Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:33 pm
Looking back on it, that should be a felony.
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
7892 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:37 pm to
The Saints and Colts both started 13-0. Manning was great and so was Brees. Any other year and he gets it.
Posted by rubberneck
NOLA
Member since Aug 2011
1040 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:38 pm to
Manning brand won the day.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:43 pm to
This is why they should give this award out after season is done and over like people have said. It is a crime that this guy continues to churn out 5,000 yard seasons like it's a regular thing and hasn't won one damn MVP award, but the Brady's, Roger's and Manning's continue to get arse kissed. lol
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:45 pm to
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The Saints and Colts both started 13-0. Manning was great and so was Brees. Any other year and he gets it.


Brees clearly outplayed Manning though
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:45 pm to
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Manning was great and so was Brees.


If only they would've played each other
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:50 pm to
Brees vs Manning in 2009 regular season:

Comp % - 70.6 (nfl record) vs 68.8
Yards - 4388 (293/g) vs 4500 (281/g)
Avg - 8.5 vs 7.9
TDs - 34 vs 33
TD % - 6.6% vs 5.8
Int - 11 vs 16
Int % - 2.1% vs 2.8%
Rating - 109.6 vs 99.9

That Passer Rating difference is ENORMOUS


It should have been a runaway, but Peyton Manning
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17987 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 5:08 pm to
He was absolutely robbed that year.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 5:10 pm to
Apparently Manning snuck on the field for some defensive plays. That's why Brees had offensive player otY but not mvp
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 5:10 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30008 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 5:42 pm to
as we all know, its a popularity contest and not really about skill, they go with popularity or PC over talent every time
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 5:49 pm to
Peyton Manning was more established and had more familiarity with voters. Brees was better than Manning in every statistical way.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 5:49 pm
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:12 pm to
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Brees vs Manning in 2009 regular season: Comp % - 70.6 (nfl record) vs 68.8 Yards - 4388 (293/g) vs 4500 (281/g) Avg - 8.5 vs 7.9 TDs - 34 vs 33 TD % - 6.6% vs 5.8 Int - 11 vs 16 Int % - 2.1% vs 2.8% Rating - 109.6 vs 99.9 That Passer Rating difference is ENORMOUS It should have been a runaway, but Peyton Manning


I know us Saints fans bitch about various years in which Brees should have won the MVP, but 2009 was an absolute robbery as indicated by your stats. That's what happens when you play in New Orleans instead of a traditional powerhouse.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25795 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:27 pm to
Nb4..."but he won the award that matters. The Lombardi."
Posted by Waldeaux24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
278 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:58 pm to
Brees and the Saints started 13-0, whereas Manning and the Colts started 14-0. That is what made the difference. The MVP award was decided the moment the Saints dropped to 13-1 while Manning stayed undefeated. Stats didn't matter at that point.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 9:59 pm
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
1170 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:31 pm to
Drew won the Super Bowl MVP. I think he would take that over Season MVP any day.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1390 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:02 pm to
The real miscarriage of justice is Brees not winning MVP in 2011, after leading the highest scoring offense in NFL history and breaking (his own) completion % record from 2009.

Losing the playoff game in San Francisco on such a big stage cost him, so they gave it to Aaron Rodgers as a lifetime achievement award, similar to Manning in 2009.

Vernon Davis just scored again! Man I get pissed every time I think about that game, F*CK!!!
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23601 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

09

i believe it was the Year of the Horse.... only fitting it ended that way
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141137 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 12:00 am to
quote:

Losing the playoff game in San Francisco on such a big stage cost him, so they gave it to Aaron Rodgers as a lifetime achievement award, similar to Manning in 2009.

if Brees puts up another 4,500 yd season and the Saints win the NFC South again... I think he gets it in a similar "lifetime achievement" way

even if his INTs are up a bit
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
13709 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 12:38 am to
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so they gave it to Aaron Rodgers as a lifetime achievement award


Lifetime achievement award to a guy who had only been a starter for three seasons? Doesn't make sense.

Rodgersbalso had an insane TD/Int ratio that year too.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:27 am to
quote:

Losing the playoff game in San Francisco on such a big stage cost him, so they gave it to Aaron Rodgers as a lifetime achievement award, similar to Manning in 2009.




Rodgers had one of the best seasons ever in 2011, and that isn't how the MVP voting works. It's a regular season award
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