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re: Gotta say, Reuben Foster is really impressing me.

Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by SlowurRole
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:23 pm to
He's nothing like Jones, he's been a beast since he's been at Alabama. He has instincts, he's athletic and he's always around football.

Jones was not a good athlete and had 1 great year at Georgia
Posted by touchdownjeebus
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:26 pm to
Ray Lewis is actually pretty smart. Dumb LBers don't play MLB. Foster is a bag of hammers.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:26 pm to
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Saban hid Ragland by completely pulling him off the field in obvious passing situations.


Wanna know how I know you're a dumbass?

Saban moved Ragland down to rush the QB on obvious passing downs. He didn't pull him off the field.

But keep up your anti-Alabama crusade. It really makes you look like a sad fricking piece of shite.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:31 pm to
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I'm curious as an Alabama fan why you aren't big on Foster?


I'm a huge Reuben Foster fan. Absolutely love him to death.

I just think the Saints have more pressing needs on the defensive line and secondary and should use the #11 pick on one of those areas.

Now, if he is there at 32, or even 42, I hope Mickey Loomis sprints to the podium like Usain Bolt to draft him. Assuming, of course, there aren't any players of comparative value left at DL or DB.

However, I will say this. All of these fricking moronic LSU fans talking out of their asses are really starting to make me hope we take him at #11 just to see them lose their shite.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:35 pm to
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what exactly has Foster done that is so bad in your eyes?

and what is up with constantly referring to Reggie Ragland?


My good friend, you know the answer to both of those questions.

But, just for clarification, here's the reason:



They both played on the red team in college.

ETA: Both of them being in that one gif is just a bonus.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 7:37 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:54 pm to
I was only comparing them in the sense that that's the same EXACT phrase people were using after they drafted Jones.

I agree on the field Foster is miles better. I would not doubt he has a MUCH better work ethic (the bigger reason why Jones was doomed to failure).

My concerns with him are intelligence (which can sometimes be overcome but not as easy as people here are saying), health (probably a bigger concern), the combine outburst (if it's that easy to get him riled up he better NEVER step foot in a club around here), and now the "failed" drug test.

A lot of red flags there. As an actual player I'm fine with him.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:02 pm to
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Ray Lewis is actually pretty smart. Dumb LBers don't play MLB. Foster is a bag of hammers.



Ray Lewis is an idiot who has had 20 years of media training being a player and a media member and still has trouble conveying his thoughts. Won't even get to the mistake he made off the field.

My point is been being booksmart or a good speaker does not = football smarts. Football is a different language for guys like Lewis and Foster
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 8:26 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:08 pm to
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Saban moved Ragland down to rush the QB on obvious passing downs. He didn't pull him off the field. 


Wanna know how I know you are a dumbass who didn't either bother to watch the video breakdown I provided? Saban did pull him off the field because he was slow as shite & struggled in changing direction. Ole Miss abused him in 2015. After that game Saban knew he was a liability against the pass.

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But keep up your anti-Alabama crusade


I just spent an entire post praising Nick Saban on his attention to detail which is the biggest reason for Alabama's success yet your tiny brain can only spew stupid shite about a Bama bias. You are too stupid to even realize that.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 8:12 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:16 pm to
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and what is up with constantly referring to Reggie Ragland?


Because the video concerning Ragland shows how Saban can play to a player's strength & hide their weaknesses on the defensive side of the ball. Ragland was a beast against the run but terrible in coverage. Saban realized that & went out of his way to prevent Ragland from being in situations that didn't fit his skill set. He has done the same for Foster.
Posted by Bayou
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:19 pm to
NO to any player from Alabama. We must have character.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:22 pm to
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Wanna know how I know you are a dumbass who didn't either bother to watch the video breakdown I provided?


The video breakdown showing Ragland trying to cover Evan Ingram? That video?

Hey numbnuts, Evan Ingram ran a 4.42 forty at the Combine. How many fricking middle linebackers do you know that could keep up with someone that fast?

Not being able to cover ONE frickING GUY doesn't make him abysmal in coverage.

Ragland graded out as the #13 LBer against the pass, but as you seemingly love to do, you focus on one miniscule part of the entire season.

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I just spent an entire post praising Nick Saban on his attention to detail which is the biggest reason for Alabama's success yet your tiny brain can only spew stupid shite about a Bama bias. You are too stupid to even realize that.


You LSU fans love you some Saban. You'd probably suck his dick if he let you.

That has nothing to do with you having a bias against Alabama players though. You nitpick like a motherfricker because your shitty arse college team can't beat them.

This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 8:34 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:22 pm to
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My good friend, you know the answer to both of those questions.  

But, just for clarification, here's the reason: 


When people lack brain cells, they struggle with the ability to discuss subjects outside the normal everyday spectrum of their lives. When all else fails, they use their own stupidity to try to make others appear on their level. Sound familiar?
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:24 pm to
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Ragland was a beast against the run but terrible in coverage.


Again, having difficulty covering one guy who is faster than most WRs does not make him terrible in coverage.

He was better than all but 12 linebackers.
Posted by TideSaint
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:25 pm to
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When people lack brain cells, they struggle with the ability to discuss subjects outside the normal everyday spectrum of their lives. When all else fails, they use their own stupidity to try to make others appear on their level. Sound familiar?


Here we go.

Someone get Nancy some Kleenex. He saw the gif of Foster destroying his favorite player.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:26 pm to
How do you know he has done the same for Foster?
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:30 pm to


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You LSU fans love you some Saban.


I don't care who the coach we are discussing. I didn't know that we couldn't discuss the positives of Saban as a coach. Despite being in the old NFC West & being a thorn in the Saints side for years, I'm a fan of what Bill Walsh did & the legacy he left on the game still to this day.

quote:

You'd probably suck his dick if he let you. 


No, you already seem to have that covered whether it be swallowing or taking a creampie up the arse. Saban seems to have a Stan already in you.

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You nitpick like a motherfricker because your shitty arse college team can't beat them. 


Negative brain cell count syndrome. Get tested. There maybe help for you.


Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75856 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:33 pm to
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There may be help for you.


FIFY.

You know, because you're so smart and all.



ETA: And just so you are aware, the guy you put so much trust in to make your case for you has Eddie Jackson going #12 overall in his mock draft.

LINK



But, hey, keep standing by his opinions.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 8:35 pm
Posted by TideSaint
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:38 pm to
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Reggie Ragland – ILB – Alabama

Ragland is a fourth-year senior and a two-year starter for Alabama. He usually lines up on the strong side of the formation in Alabama’s base defense. In sub packages, he will either stay at linebacker or at times lines up as a defensive end to rush the passer.

Ragland is a former four or five star recruit depending on the recruiting service you look at. He had offers from some of the best programs in the country.

Size –

6’2? – 250 – 4.68 (all estimates)

Strong Points –

He has great size to go along with good to very good overall athleticism. He has good play speed. He plays with very good strength, is strong at the point of attack, can shed blocks and is a very good tackler. He is good in coverage but is best in zone versus underneath routes. Has adequate pass rush skills when coming off the edge. Does a good job with blitzes. Shows good lateral movement and agility, can move through trash and get to the sideline.

Weak Points –

More of a reactor than an anticipator. Does not  consistently take good angles to the ball.

Summation –

Ragland has ideal size, speed and strength to play inside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. His instincts are average and he reacts better than he anticipates. Still he is a strong point of attack player who can shed blocks and clog up the middle. Plays downhill. Plays the outside run well because of his play speed and his lateral movement. When in pursuit he doesn’t consistently take good angles but still makes pursuit plays. He is a consistently good tackler and will come up with a blowup type hit on occasion. In pass coverage he gets depth with his drops, shows awareness and plays the underneath routes well. As a pass rusher he is sometimes used as a defensive end and gets adequate outside pressure. Is sometimes better as an inside blitzer from the linebacker position. Overall, I see Ragland as an eventual starter at inside linebacker for a playoff caliber team and will start earlier for a team with a need. He won’t be special, but he will be a solid NFL starter. His best fit is in a 3-4 scheme but he can play in a 4-3.




Interesting
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:41 pm to
He can play no doubt about that.

if available at #32 or even in the 2nd round.. yeah go for it.

#32 or 2nd rounder would make even more sense if the Butler thing is a wash.

I'd be excited but would be cautiously optimistic.

to be honest I'm not even sure we'll pick a LB but maybe we will since none of the ones on the roster really jump out at you as a real good player.

I feel like even though its Mike Nolan's group now.. the approach in building the LB group has been real similar to previous years. Which usually isn't anything to brag about.

This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 8:43 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:42 pm to
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Ragland is the complete three-down inside linebacker the Packers defense has needed since Desmond Bishop’s departure. Clay Matthews has given Green Bay a temporary solution at the position the past two seasons, but the Packers need a long-term fix. Ragland would provide that. 

He’s a stout run-defender and would bring a physical presence to the Packers’ front seven to pair with either Jake Ryan or Sam Barrington on the inside. His ability to take on blocks and be physical at the line of scrimmage would be a nice complement to Ryan and Barrington’s ability to run and make plays in pursuit.

Ragland’s ability to drop in coverage and rush the passer would also give Green Bay an additional defensive weapon for Dom Capers and company to utilize in their fire zone scheme. Ragland can generate pressure off the edge or through the A-gap, which would allow even more creativity when dialing up pressure. The fact the Packers wouldn’t have to take Ragland off the field on third downs either also makes him a valuable player worthy of a late-first round selection.

Overall, Ragland’s a likely day-one starter as a rookie, and he would allow Matthews to move back to outside linebacker, his most effective position, and return to rushing the passer full-time once again.




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