- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Eric Galko's "What I've Heard" -- QB tidbits, targeting tackle by 3rd
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:02 pm
LINK
Saw this on reddit. Lots of FWIW here, but its just a collection of rumors in the scouting community. Guy has been pretty reliable so far this offseason apparently. Still interesting. Here's some tidbits:
Saw this on reddit. Lots of FWIW here, but its just a collection of rumors in the scouting community. Guy has been pretty reliable so far this offseason apparently. Still interesting. Here's some tidbits:
quote:
— All signs point to Watson slipping on draft day. The Bears and Saints appear to have the most interest, but I don’t expect either team to covet Watson as a top-20 pick. Watson’s arm strength, transition from his college offense and overall upside has been in question. I expect him to go somewhere between pick 24 and 32. Once he gets into the mid-20s, multiple teams might look to move up from the second round to get him.
quote:
Peterman could be a Jaguar, Saint, Redskin or 49er, and by the third round, he could be a pick for any number of teams. If I had to pick one team for Miami’s Brad Kaaya, it’d be the Saints (though many teams compare him to Jared Goff in his mental makeup).
quote:
— I believe the Saints will get a deal done for Malcolm Butler, but keep in mind they don’t want to give up another early-round pick. They want to address their offensive tackle depth need by Round 3, if not earlier.
quote:
— Leonard Fournette is a special talent, and most NFL teams appreciate him far more than the media or fans do. The 49ers are a darkhorse to consider him at No. 2, but the Jaguars at No. 4 might be his most likely destination. The Jets at No. 6 and the Panthers at No. 8 are his other options.
quote:
— Christian McCaffrey will be the next running back taken, and he won’t last beyond the top 15 picks.
quote:
— Joe Mixon has plenty of suitors and shouldn’t last long in Round 2, just like Dorial Green-Beckham two years ago.
quote:
— Some have said Jonathan Allen of Alabama might fall due to his shoulder injury issues, but that’s not what I’ve been told. Virtually every team I’ve spoken with has high first-round grades on him. I don’t think he gets past the Bears at third overall.
quote:
— Missouri defensive end Charles Harris has multiple top-10 grades from NFL teams, and I expect him to be drafted in the top 15. His ceiling might be sixth overall to the Jets, and his floor might be the Colts at No. 15.
quote:
— The Panthers will take Fournette if he's available at No. 8. If not, I believe they’ll take Derek Barnett, Harris or Howard and target a running back in Round 2. If Barnett does not become a Panther, I believe he’ll be taken by the Bengals.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 1:03 pm
4
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:18 pm to Rand AlThor
These "What I've heard" articles are pure speculation.
Saints just got burned on a 3rd round qb. I think they either take Watson, Trubisky, or Mahomes at 32 or don't take one at all. We have a back up for Brees already in Daniels why draft another. If the Saints draft a qb it will be someone they think can challenge Brees for the starting position in two years not a career backup. Look at the NFC south it is two first overall picks, the 3rd pick and Brees. Why waste a 3rd rounder on a qb when that could be a receiver, guard/tackle, or cornerback that can contribute immediately.
Saints just got burned on a 3rd round qb. I think they either take Watson, Trubisky, or Mahomes at 32 or don't take one at all. We have a back up for Brees already in Daniels why draft another. If the Saints draft a qb it will be someone they think can challenge Brees for the starting position in two years not a career backup. Look at the NFC south it is two first overall picks, the 3rd pick and Brees. Why waste a 3rd rounder on a qb when that could be a receiver, guard/tackle, or cornerback that can contribute immediately.
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:28 pm to VA LSU fan
quote:So because they get burned on a pick, they should never draft a player from that position in that round again? No more 2nd round CBs? No more 1st round DTs? Pretty soon, they would not be drafting. Makes no sense to eliminate a QB in the 3rd round simply because they missed on a 3rd round QB previously. It is all about the grades they have on the player.
These "What I've heard" articles are pure speculation. Saints just got burned on a 3rd round qb. I think they either take Watson, Trubisky, or Mahomes at 32 or don't take one at all. We have a back up for Brees already in Daniels why draft another. If the Saints draft a qb it will be someone they think can challenge Brees for the starting position in two years not a career backup. Look at the NFC south it is two first overall picks, the 3rd pick and Brees. Why waste a 3rd rounder on a qb when that could be a receiver, guard/tackle, or cornerback that can contribute immediately.
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:33 pm to VA LSU fan
You are legitimately one of the dumbest posters I've ever encountered
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:36 pm to Rand AlThor
quote:
— I believe the Saints will get a deal done for Malcolm Butler, but keep in mind they don’t want to give up another early-round pick. They want to address their offensive tackle depth need by Round 3, if not earlier.
Still think it's going to be two 3rds one this year and one next year.
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:37 pm to St Augustine
quote:
Still think it's going to be two 3rds one this year and one next year.
being able to keep 11, 32 and 42... sign me up.
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:48 pm to St Augustine
quote:Would like that, but doubt it.
Still think it's going to be two 3rds one this year and one next year.
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:54 pm to Rand AlThor
The tidbit on Charles Harris is very interesting. I think he could be an outstanding pass rusher in the NFL.
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:55 pm to NOSHAU
Butler in last year of deal, already 27 , patriots just paid a huge cb salary. Also feel like the compensation for draft picks for players always seems lower than what is speculated. I also think there is a certain element to the media just thinking patriots always going to be heavily compensated/win any trade they do which is usually justified 
Just think BB and company feel like they could somewhat easily replace him with 2 3rd rounders.
Just think BB and company feel like they could somewhat easily replace him with 2 3rd rounders.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:22 pm to NOSHAU
That is not what I said. There is only one qb on the field typically at a time. We currently have a hall of famer still playing at a high level. If we draft another qb he gets on the field in only one way and that is for Brees to not be on it.
Drafting other positions is fine. You can have 3 or 4 cb's on the field or 2 or 3 dt's. So extra of those is fine. I was only making a statement about drafting a qb in the 3rd.
Drafting other positions is fine. You can have 3 or 4 cb's on the field or 2 or 3 dt's. So extra of those is fine. I was only making a statement about drafting a qb in the 3rd.
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:25 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
You are legitimately one of the dumbest posters I've ever encountered
So you are on board with a 3rd round qb?
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:32 pm to VA LSU fan
quote:
So you are on board with a 3rd round qb?
Yep. If the value is there, absolutely. It generally takes 2-3 years for a QB to be game ready. Brees has 2-3 years left of quality play. I want our future QB to learn the ropes, how to prepare, etc., from the Saints GOAT.
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:34 pm to ClientNumber9
i get what VA LSU is saying. if you ain't going big early on a qb, then don't go at all. chances of a garret grayson, nathan peterman, brad kaaya becoming the future post drew will always be slim. Maybe they can be the backup to the Daniels though....
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:03 pm to Chad504boy
I hope Saints get 2 corners in 1st. We need new players at that position the most.
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:58 pm to Load Toad
quote:
I hope Saints get 2 corners in 1st. We need new players at that position the most
What an uneventful 1st round that would be. If our picks come around and the best player available just happens to be a cb both times, then I guess I'd be down with it, but I really hope we get a pass rusher with one of the first two. I'm tired of seeing opposite QBs have all day in the pocket.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:21 am to Chad504boy
quote:
if you ain't going big early on a qb, then don't go at all. chances of a garret grayson, nathan peterman, brad kaaya becoming the future post drew will always be slim.
But no QB in this draft is a "can't miss QB". Odds are slim anyway.
And an early QB pick doesn't guarentee anything. Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater were first round picks and Derek Carr was a 2nd. Andrew Luck, RG3, Tannehill, Weeden and Osweiler all went before Russel Wilson, Nick Foles and Kirk Cousins. This year looks more like 2013 where none of the QBs will pan out than 2012 where there are a few starters.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:30 am to Suntiger
We all wanted Wilson. I think this board saw something scouts didn't that year.
The 3rd round is too important to throw away a pick on a qb. The stupid writers do this every year. Either a team with an extra pick or a team the media doesn't really care about always gets the mid round qb treatment from them. I would rather take a CB or WR in the 3rd over a QB. At least in nickel or dime a 4th string CB can see time and the same can be said in a 4 WR set for you 4th WR.
The 3rd round is too important to throw away a pick on a qb. The stupid writers do this every year. Either a team with an extra pick or a team the media doesn't really care about always gets the mid round qb treatment from them. I would rather take a CB or WR in the 3rd over a QB. At least in nickel or dime a 4th string CB can see time and the same can be said in a 4 WR set for you 4th WR.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:47 am to VA LSU fan
I really like Mahoomes (spelling? don't feel like looking it up) and would be okay with him at 32 only if there isn't a run a CBs at the end of the first round.
Dobbs in third I like also. Not a big fan of Kaaya, Kizer, or Peterman.
I do like Watson with 42 if he is there, but I don't think he will be.
Dobbs in third I like also. Not a big fan of Kaaya, Kizer, or Peterman.
I do like Watson with 42 if he is there, but I don't think he will be.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:25 am to Rand AlThor
They don't have a single QB in this draft who will do anything but be a career backup or a below-average starter. I sure as hell hope they don't spend a late 1st on one. Very uninspiring QB draft.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 8:26 am
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:12 am to rmnldr
Should we consider Harris for 11?
I'd love him at 32 to go along with a guy like Reddick at 11 but that might not be feasible.
I'd love him at 32 to go along with a guy like Reddick at 11 but that might not be feasible.
Page 1 of 1
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News