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Early cap prediction and moves to push down CSP speculation threads
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:37 pm
First -> CSP announces yal got trolllolololol'd
1. Brees signs 3 year extension with the Saints. 3yr/60mil with 40million guaranteed.
Breakdown:
2016: 1.5mil base guaranteed, 20.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 21.75mil cap hit
2017: 8.5mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 10.0mil roster bonus, 250k workout, 28.75mil cap hit
2018: 9.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 19.25mil cap hit
2019: 10.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 20.25mil cap hit
Giving us 8.25mil of space (2.5mil under the cap)
2. Cam Jordan restructures, reduces cap from 12.8mil to 5.808mil
Gives us another 7mil of space (9.5mil under the cap)
3. Cut Hawthorne 4.51mil cap hit
Saves 2.25mil of space (11.761mil under the cap)
4. Marques Colston with a cap hit of 5.9mil takes a pay cut, reducing his 2.65mil salary to 1.65mil fully guaranteed
Saves 1.0mil of space (12.761mil under the cap)
5. Dannell Ellerbe with a cap hit of 5.9mil takes a pay cut, reducing his 4.1mil salary to 1.1mil, but fully guaranteed his 2017 salary.
Saves 3.0mil of space (15.761mil under the cap)
6. Jahri Evans with a cap hit of 8.2mil takes a pay cut, reducing his 3.8mil salary (2.0mil guaranteed) to 2.8mil, but gets a 2.0mil signing bonus.
Saves 1.0mil of space (16.761mil under the cap)
7. Terron Armstead gets a 7yr/84 million dollar extension, 30 mil guaranteed, 10mil signing bonus.
Free Agents we re-sign:
Kevin Williams DT
Ben Watson TE
Michael Hoomananawanui TE
Jamarca Sanford S
Kyle Wilson CB
Rafael Bush S
Kai Fortbath K
Tim Lelito G
Free Agents to look out for:
Ladarius Green TE
Marvin Jones WR
Andre Holmes WR
Alex Boone G
Kelechi Osemele G
Richie Incognito G
Haloti Ngata DT/NT
Patrick Robinson CB
Jeremy Lane CB
Mo Claiborne CB
Prince Amukamara CB
1. Brees signs 3 year extension with the Saints. 3yr/60mil with 40million guaranteed.
Breakdown:
2016: 1.5mil base guaranteed, 20.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 21.75mil cap hit
2017: 8.5mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 10.0mil roster bonus, 250k workout, 28.75mil cap hit
2018: 9.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 19.25mil cap hit
2019: 10.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 20.25mil cap hit
Giving us 8.25mil of space (2.5mil under the cap)
2. Cam Jordan restructures, reduces cap from 12.8mil to 5.808mil
Gives us another 7mil of space (9.5mil under the cap)
3. Cut Hawthorne 4.51mil cap hit
Saves 2.25mil of space (11.761mil under the cap)
4. Marques Colston with a cap hit of 5.9mil takes a pay cut, reducing his 2.65mil salary to 1.65mil fully guaranteed
Saves 1.0mil of space (12.761mil under the cap)
5. Dannell Ellerbe with a cap hit of 5.9mil takes a pay cut, reducing his 4.1mil salary to 1.1mil, but fully guaranteed his 2017 salary.
Saves 3.0mil of space (15.761mil under the cap)
6. Jahri Evans with a cap hit of 8.2mil takes a pay cut, reducing his 3.8mil salary (2.0mil guaranteed) to 2.8mil, but gets a 2.0mil signing bonus.
Saves 1.0mil of space (16.761mil under the cap)
7. Terron Armstead gets a 7yr/84 million dollar extension, 30 mil guaranteed, 10mil signing bonus.
Free Agents we re-sign:
Kevin Williams DT
Ben Watson TE
Michael Hoomananawanui TE
Jamarca Sanford S
Kyle Wilson CB
Rafael Bush S
Kai Fortbath K
Tim Lelito G
Free Agents to look out for:
Ladarius Green TE
Marvin Jones WR
Andre Holmes WR
Alex Boone G
Kelechi Osemele G
Richie Incognito G
Haloti Ngata DT/NT
Patrick Robinson CB
Jeremy Lane CB
Mo Claiborne CB
Prince Amukamara CB
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Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:39 pm to htran90
Cap room moves you look so good.
I like it
I like it
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:46 pm to htran90
quote:
1. Brees signs 3 year extension with the Saints. 3yr/60mil with 40million guaranteed
Does his greed know no end?!??
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:54 pm to htran90
quote:He still has $10 million prorated bonus from his previous contract that does not disappear with a restructure. You have to take that into account.
1. Brees signs 3 year extension with the Saints. 3yr/60mil with 40million guaranteed. Breakdown: 2016: 1.5mil base guaranteed, 20.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 21.75mil cap hit 2017: 8.5mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 10.0mil roster bonus, 250k workout, 28.75mil cap hit 2018: 9.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 19.25mil cap hit 2019: 10.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 20.25mil cap hit Giving us 8.25mil of space (2.5mil under the cap)
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:00 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
He still has $10 million prorated bonus from his previous contract that does not disappear with a restructure. You have to take that into account.
That is taken into account why year #1 (2016) is 20.0mil prorated, gave him a 40mil signing bonus which spread 10mil equally.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:31 am to htran90
quote:
That is taken into account why year #1 (2016) is 20.0mil prorated, gave him a 40mil signing bonus which spread 10mil equally.
How about just give him the Pelicans. Brees gets paid and no cap hit for the Saints. It is a win-win.
All kidding aside those moves look pretty good. What is the total amount those moves would save?
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:35 am to htran90
Locking up Armstead and restructuring Brees have to be the two main goals heading into the offseason.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:37 am to htran90
quote:
1. Brees signs 3 year extension with the Saints. 3yr/60mil with 40million guaranteed.
Breakdown:
2016: 1.5mil base guaranteed, 20.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 21.75mil cap hit
2017: 8.5mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 10.0mil roster bonus, 250k workout, 28.75mil cap hit
2018: 9.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 19.25mil cap hit
2019: 10.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 20.25mil cap hit
There's no way we're signing a deal where Brees still has a 20+ mil cap hit in 2019. If anything this will be a front loaded deal where I'm assuming he'll still make 18-20/year but the cap hit lowers every year.
This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:47 am to htran90
Get
Princo or Mo. Need guy who can hold his own as a #1 or 2 (will not be with 40 healthy and more experienced). We need a corner who can at least not be abused if he and Keenan miss a game or two, we've had some terrible cornerbacks
Ngata or boone
If Ngata can be had you get him while Drafting a successor. If we want a stopgap get boone but I'd rather go with youth there.
Princo or Mo. Need guy who can hold his own as a #1 or 2 (will not be with 40 healthy and more experienced). We need a corner who can at least not be abused if he and Keenan miss a game or two, we've had some terrible cornerbacks
Ngata or boone
If Ngata can be had you get him while Drafting a successor. If we want a stopgap get boone but I'd rather go with youth there.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:03 am to htran90
Agree/hope with most all of that. 
If Colston retires its a must to get a veteran WR who's a good leader and locker room guy above all else.
And signing Terron to a extension would be a very smart move.
I think you can add Morestead to your list as saving us cap via cut or restructure as well.
If Colston retires its a must to get a veteran WR who's a good leader and locker room guy above all else.
And signing Terron to a extension would be a very smart move.
I think you can add Morestead to your list as saving us cap via cut or restructure as well.
This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 10:04 am
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:42 am to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
There's no way we're signing a deal where Brees still has a 20+ mil cap hit in 2019. If anything this will be a front loaded deal where I'm assuming he'll still make 18-20/year but the cap hit lowers every year.
Say he signs for 3/60, He's reducing '16 from the 30mil to 22mil,' 17 is 29 with a 10mil roster bonus (which will be restructured), '18 is 19, and '19 is 20. How much more frontloaded do you expect?
This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 11:43 am
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:55 am to htran90
good work htran
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:11 pm to htran90
quote:
1. Brees signs 3 year extension with the Saints. 3yr/60mil with 40million guaranteed.
Breakdown:
2016: 1.5mil base guaranteed, 20.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 21.75mil cap hit
2017: 8.5mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 10.0mil roster bonus, 250k workout, 28.75mil cap hit
2018: 9.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 19.25mil cap hit
2019: 10.0mil base, 10.0mil prorated, 250k workout, 20.25mil cap hit
This just kicks the can down the $30 million can down the road to next year. Is a $28.75m cap hit sustainable for any team for any player?
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:17 pm to euquol
I took that from loomis' other contracts. Next year's cap hit is high arbitrarily like Jordan's, will be restructured and reduced to 18mil, but pushes 18 and 19 by 5mil and back loading it.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:35 pm to htran90
Laquon Treadwell at 1.12 AND signing Ladarius Green? League FUKT! 
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