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Drew Brees joins crowd at 'paddle out' near Junior Seau's home
Posted on 5/6/12 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 5/6/12 at 5:41 pm
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New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees was among the 200 surfers in the water south of the pier in Oceanside, Calif., where about 1,200 well-wishers gathered near the beachfront home of Junior Seau, to honor the former San Diego Chargers linebacker, who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound Wednesday. "It is a beautiful day," Brees told USA Today Sports. "We were in the water where I know Junior loved to be. It was a beautiful day because Junior is present here with us."
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Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:09 pm to TomGavin
pretty common memorial service in Hawaii...I bet the water was still pretty cold in Oceanside though. When I was there in 09 it was about 65 in late July. Nice beach and gesture.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:09 pm to TomGavin
Im sure Junior Seau was a wonderful human being.
But
Has anyone made mention of the fact that suicide is a cowards exit?
Im sure i'll catch grief and let me also say that one stupid decision should not be reflective of the guys whole life......i get that. It just seems that this suicide is being glorified.
But
Has anyone made mention of the fact that suicide is a cowards exit?
Im sure i'll catch grief and let me also say that one stupid decision should not be reflective of the guys whole life......i get that. It just seems that this suicide is being glorified.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:13 pm to MoreOrLes
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Has anyone made mention of the fact that suicide is a cowards exit?
I study psychology.
If he went insane, I don't find him terribly culpable.
If.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:18 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
Has anyone made mention of the fact that suicide is a cowards exit?
I wouldn't necessarily call it an act of a coward, but it is definitely borne out of selfishness.
Also something I wouldn't disguss in a public forum as there are a lot of bleeding hearts that will rip you to shreds
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:18 pm to MoreOrLes
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. His death is being glorified to help people remember the good things about him. The fact that it was suicide is not.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:24 pm to HeauxBeaux
quote:
I wouldn't necessarily call it an act of a coward, but it is definitely borne out of selfishness.
Also something I wouldn't disguss in a public forum as there are a lot of bleeding hearts that will rip you to shreds
My thoughts exactly
This post was edited on 5/6/12 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:25 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
Im sure i'll catch grief and let me also say that one stupid decision should not be reflective of the guys whole life......i get that. It just seems that this suicide is being glorified.
yeah but most of the remembrance is for those who were left behind...coping mechanism
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:13 pm to St Augustine
I just wish a note of solid reasoning would have been left...ie...headaches or intense depression or lack of hope...or trying to reassimilate back into daily life is too much....would help family and friends a bit
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:57 pm to cgbfairhope
Im sure Junior Seau was a wonderful human being.
But
Has anyone made mention of the fact that suicide is a cowards exit?
Im sure i'll catch grief and let me also say that one stupid decision should not be reflective of the guys whole life......i get that. It just seems that this suicide is being glorified.
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You are making an assumption that he was acting in a clear rational manner at the time and decided it was the easy way out.
No one but Seau knows why he did it and what the reasons were that lead to this event. He could have been suffering from an undiagnosed condition.
Unless something comes out that he did something absolutely terrible and he was suffering from massive guilt I think your reasoning is dead wrong.
But
Has anyone made mention of the fact that suicide is a cowards exit?
Im sure i'll catch grief and let me also say that one stupid decision should not be reflective of the guys whole life......i get that. It just seems that this suicide is being glorified.
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You are making an assumption that he was acting in a clear rational manner at the time and decided it was the easy way out.
No one but Seau knows why he did it and what the reasons were that lead to this event. He could have been suffering from an undiagnosed condition.
Unless something comes out that he did something absolutely terrible and he was suffering from massive guilt I think your reasoning is dead wrong.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:34 pm to computerguy
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You are making an assumption that he was acting in a clear rational manner at the time and decided it was the easy way out
I highly doubt he's making this assumption. The nature of the act negates a clear rational manner
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:37 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
Has anyone made mention of the fact that suicide is a cowards exit?
Look yall can get mad all you want but I agree. Its selfish and stupid. Period.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:51 pm to TomGavin
Drew is one of the classiest players around 
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:52 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
Has anyone made mention of the fact that suicide is a cowards exit?
It's pretty apparent that you have absolutely no education on this matter.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:01 pm to Ala Tide
i wouldnt say coward but i do think its a jackass move if you have loved ones. if no one cares about you more power to you but if you have people that love you suicide is an a-hole move 
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:30 pm to Ala Tide
Its pretty apparent that my children will be raised to understand that suicide is a cowards way out.
You however may study and educate yourself about suicide as much as you like. Its still, for the time being, a free country.
You however may study and educate yourself about suicide as much as you like. Its still, for the time being, a free country.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:43 pm to MoreOrLes
Is it still the "coward's way out" if you are not of your right mind or your judgement /reasoning is not what it should be?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:47 pm to MoreOrLes
I'll go out on a limb that if you are reading this, you haven't killed yourself, so you in no way know what that person has gone through. I had a friend who's dad killed himself. He was on anti-depressants, and his doctor just told him to quit cold turkey. He started having bad issues with it and needed help, but couldn't get in touch with his doctor, and one day he shot himself.
You just can't really know the agony and pain they go through and just write them off as being cowards. It's easy for us to do that. I've been in bad spots and felt I was a bit depressed, but have never even come close to thinking about ending my life. It really scares me to think about how much worse it would have to be to actually start thinking about giving up.
I won't excuse it, but I would call it selfish over cowardly all day long.
You just can't really know the agony and pain they go through and just write them off as being cowards. It's easy for us to do that. I've been in bad spots and felt I was a bit depressed, but have never even come close to thinking about ending my life. It really scares me to think about how much worse it would have to be to actually start thinking about giving up.
I won't excuse it, but I would call it selfish over cowardly all day long.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:51 pm to St Augustine
In my opinion yes.
However what you describe could be categorized as an accidental suicide. Seau shot himself in the chest. (I don't think he was cleaning his gun and it accidentally went off)
No it sounds like he wanted to end it all. And whose fault is it if your judgement is not what it should be? Human life is precious and to take ones own life should never be an option. JMO
However what you describe could be categorized as an accidental suicide. Seau shot himself in the chest. (I don't think he was cleaning his gun and it accidentally went off)
No it sounds like he wanted to end it all. And whose fault is it if your judgement is not what it should be? Human life is precious and to take ones own life should never be an option. JMO
Posted on 5/6/12 at 10:12 pm to sicboy
quote:
I'll go out on a limb that if you are reading this, you haven't killed yourself, so you in no way know what that person has gone through. I had a friend who's dad killed himself. He was on anti-depressants, and his doctor just told him to quit cold turkey. He started having bad issues with it and needed help, but couldn't get in touch with his doctor, and one day he shot himself.
What happened with my father was similar, except the medication he was on seemed to change him (the topic of lawsuit would be for another discussion). Saw a man go from loving and enjoying life, to a man who seemed to be in a hole he felt he could never get out of. Depression dug this hole, his own thoughts did. Thoughts for some reason of feeling like no one loved him, which is horse shite. For whatever sparked it caused something to dig deep in him. Never, not once, did I expect him of doing what he did. It's a selfish act, yes, and it hurt our family more than one could imagine. It took us a while and one hell of a fight to get through it and come out on top. But, sometimes people just lose it and their mind wanders off to a place none of us understand. Unfortunately, it was him being one of those. There are times where it's hard to tell who is in these severe depressions, but if you know it, do all you can to help them and let them know they'd be missed.
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