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Dave Dameshek,"Saints offense would implode without Jimmy Graham."

Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:13 pm
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13228 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:13 pm
I really wonder how these people get jobs, it is mind-boggling. Did he forget that we won a superbowl without him?
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:19 pm to
It's a hot "news" topic. They're just doing their job. It's sad, I know.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:22 pm to
If Jimmy Graham isn't super ultra mega vital to our offense, then they couldn't justify talking about it 24/7.

Offseason.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:31 pm to
The Saints offense has never relied on just one guy outside of Brees.. and they've been top notch since.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:49 pm to
last season it might have.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:55 pm to
Even when Graham was shut down we were a semi-decent offense. Obviously wouldn't have been great but "implode" is a stretch.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90447 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:57 pm to
Dave who?
Posted by I'mCastorTroy
Member since Dec 2012
144 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:38 am to
Wish they'd jump back on Seattle's dick for once. I'd rather we garner no attention at all.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9398 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 6:45 am to
Dave also thinks Jimmy is a top 5 player in the NFL so I would expect that's why.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28714 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:16 am to
We also had reggie bush in the passing game and a younger Marcus Colston. Also a pretty good running game. We would've been pure shite last year without Graham.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 7:17 am
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:19 am to
We'd sure miss his run blocking.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10940 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:19 am to
quote:

We'd sure miss his run blocking.
Personally, I would miss him flexing after a 4 yard catch after being manhandled by a 150 Lb. cornerback for the previous 20 plays.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64195 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:19 am to
I'd miss 16 flexes a year!
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Personally, I would miss him flexing after a 4 yard catch after being manhandled by a 150 Lb. cornerback for the previous 20 plays.



He's gotta be more physical this year. He's finally healthy. He can't let people manhandle him like that. The guy has 60 lbs on almost everyone he goes up against.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Even when Graham was shut down we were a semi-decent offense. Obviously wouldn't have been great but "implode" is a stretch.



Now imagine they don't have 1 great player to focus on. Hell, we should be begging teams to put their Talib on Graham. Our Oline issues last year is what stalled the offense at times.

quote:

He's gotta be more physical this year. He's finally healthy. He can't let people manhandle him like that. The guy has 60 lbs on almost everyone he goes up against.



I agree. As elite as he is, he should be even better.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 8:39 am
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:47 am to
quote:

I agree. As elite as he is, he should be even better.


THIS!!!
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6325 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:48 am to
I'm not sure it's lack of physicality that's Graham's problem, he's proven after the catch he can be very physical. I think teams now know what type of player/assignment that best fits the matchup, so he is going to not get as many easy receptions. Now that Graham is facing good CBs he has to refine his technique. When you are playing opposite of good defenders, everything counts. He's never been a good technical player, and that has a lot to do with being late to the sport/position.

Things that stick out to me:

Breaking on the ball: he doesn't snap to ball very often, he kind of just wait for the pass to get to him. His long arms and tall stature allow him to make great catches by reaching for poorly-thrown balls, but he has to get better at closing on the ball when the pass is in contention with a very good CB.

Anticipation of the hit: I think this is what gives people the idea that he isn't physical. When he is playing close with another defender he tends to clam up before the catch, not utilizing the full extent of his arms (alligator arms). He needs to work at this - it's very un-nerving as a player and not bracing for a hit since you are doing exactly opposite of what human nature is telling you.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 9:09 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:59 am to
Total Offense Rankings:

2013 - 4
2012 - 2
2011 - 1
2010 - 6
2009 - 1
2008 - 1
2007 - 4
2006 - 1

Pretty insane statement that we would implode without Graham.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59599 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:26 am to
Who?
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10940 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:32 am to
quote:

it's very un-nerving as a player and not bracing for a hit since you are doing exactly opposite of what human nature is telling you.
The difference between good and great IMO. Also, the ONLY thing keeping him from being great. He really has the potential to be so much better.
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