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Daniel Jeremiah: "Based on what I've heard, Will Fuller will be 1st WR drafted".

Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:43 pm
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:43 pm
Interesting, though I can definitely see the upside. He goes onto say Coleman could go before Treadwell too.
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:52 pm to
It seems like we get closer to the draft, the more Treadwell becomes less popular as the 1st WR taken. I've seen people list Doctson, Michel Thomas, Coleman, and now Fuller as their WR1. Then again, it is that dead period where people try to create news, and start over analyzing everything.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 3:58 pm to
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closer to the draft, the more Treadwell becomes less popular as the 1st WR taken


There were a handful of posters that had him as the 2nd & 3rd best WR in the draft.

I've always liked Coleman & Doctson ahead of him and do not see him as a top 10 WR in the game. I think he'll be a solid #1 for several teams. I believe his best fit would be as a #2 guy opposite someone like Dez, AJ Green, A Brown, Julio...

Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:27 pm to
I don't see Fuller as #1. I can buy Doctson, but I see Fuller more as #4. Treadwell fits the Saints nicely, but I would not want to use #12 on him.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:33 pm to
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It seems like we get closer to the draft, the more Treadwell becomes less popular as the 1st WR taken
It was his pro day last week. He ran a 4.65 40. By contrast, OLB Darron Lee ran a 4.47 at 232 pounds at the Combine.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:50 pm to
4.6 speed didn't stop Colston. Why should it be an issue now? They won't use him like Cooks.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61205 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:36 pm to
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4.6 speed didn't stop Colston. Why should it be an issue now? They won't use him like Cooks.
Colston was drafted in round 7; near the end of the round, in fact. That makes him a great value.

Again, nobody is saying that Treadwell won't be a good pro. The discussion is about WHERE you draft him. Late in round 1 he's a good value. At #12 where the Saints select, he isn't.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 6:23 pm to
Colston ran a 4.54 at the combine, with a 6.9 three cone (thats a cornerback 3 cone - bests are usually 6.7 etc)

At 6'4 230.

Colston was always an underaplreciated beast.

Treadwell is no colston
Posted by patendedgmf
BR
Member since Jun 2006
1443 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 8:16 pm to
same issues as Kelvin... no break away speed.
someone will get a great value with Laquon, but it will be front loaded value.
The speed is the first thing to go.
You draft guys that can fly early, size and route running later.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49489 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 8:18 pm to
Yeah, Colston was never a deep speed guy, but people forget (or never knew) how quick he was for his size.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11853 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:27 pm to
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same issues as Kelvin... no break away speed.
But had much quicker short shuttle and 3 cone than Benjamin.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:13 pm to
He could also catch
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:22 pm to
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He could also catch



this is the biggest thing compared to every "big receiver" we've drafted or tried to replicate since.

none of them had Colston's hands. They had better speed, better combine numbers, but nobody comes close to his hands
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4066 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 1:16 am to
Can't teach the fact that he plays grown man ball. Ask Anquan.
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 1:31 am to
Yall do realize there's more to a WR than a 40 yard dash in tights, right?

Outside of top-end speed, Treadwell is easily one of the most complete WR in this draft. And to me, has the best combo of size, hands, quickness(especially for his size, check his 3 cone), ball skills, route running and run blocking of any WR in this draft. He'd literally be the perfect WR to pair with Cooks - who is a speed receiver - if we were to go that route in the first.

Edit: I also think yall are using hindsight too much in regards to Colston. Sure they ran about the same, but outside of speed Colton wasn't nearly the prospect coming out of college that Treadwell is. It also didn't help that he went to a small school. For every Colston-type pick there's 10+ that don't pan out. Colston was just a special player who managed to put it together at the next level as well. So to use the argument that since Colton has the same speed and was drafted in the 7th, therefore Treadwell is not worth a mid to semi-mid 1st because of his speed, holds no merit IMO. They were totally different prospects with different circumstances.

Also another counter to the Colston = 7th so Treadwell =! mid-ish 1st argument. If they went back and did a re-draft of 2006, do you think Colston would be taken in the first round by some team. Knowing what you know now, do you think he'd be worth a 1st? If your answer is yes (and it should be), then Treadwell should most definitely be.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 1:47 am
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:12 am to
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Can't teach the fact that he plays grown man ball. Ask Anquan


Agreed. Sometimes, people just need to watch games. Forgot the combine numbers.

Treadwell played in the best conference in the land. And was a dominant WR, against several NFL caliber corners.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:19 am to
Treadwell would be a good fit but at this point #12 looks too spendy and he will be gone before #47. Trading back or up from 47 would hafta happen IMO
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:48 am to
Good post.

quote:

quickness(especially for his size, check his 3 cone), ball skills, route running

These three traits can overcomes a bad 40, and vice versa.
quote:

Also another counter to the Colston = 7th so Treadwell =! mid-ish 1st argument. If they went back and did a re-draft of 2006, do you think Colston would be taken in the first round by some team. Knowing what you know now, do you think he'd be worth a 1st?

Agreed. I keep seeing that argument on this board in regards to 40 times/draft position. The better way to look at it would be a potential redraft. If you really think Colston would STILL go in the 7th, because he still ran a slower 40, then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:52 am to
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Treadwell would be a good fit but at this point #12 looks too spend

Treadwell isn't in my top 3 for #12, but I just don't know how you can say 12 is too high. He could very well go anywhere from #10-#20. I don't remember seeing too many mocks that had OBJ going at 12. And he's surely lived up to his draft position.
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
2434 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:57 am to
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but outside of speed Colton wasn't nearly the prospect coming out of college that Treadwell is.


No shite. One was picked in the 7th round and the other is a likely 1st rounder.
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