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re: Clock Management on our last TD drive.

Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:12 am to
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:12 am to
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Meh, people were saying it during the game game. Would have been nice, but you have to score. We called an off tackle run for Ingram and his job is to get as many yards as possible


Why cant we try to score and stay in bounds? Ingram would have gotten maybe a yd less if he stayed in bounds, maybe.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:13 am to
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We'll have to agree to disagree, but IMO, the defense not getting a stop bit us in the arse, not scoring too quickly.


Both defenses couldnt make a stop. It was pretty clear who had the ball last would win the game.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:14 am to
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Why cant we try to score and stay in bounds? Ingram would have gotten maybe a yd less if he stayed in bounds, maybe.


And when he fumbles due to the extra contact, what do you say after that?

ETA inb4heshouldn'tfumble

This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 8:19 am
Posted by mm2316
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:17 am to
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Both defenses couldnt make a stop. It was pretty clear who had the ball last would win the game.

So because they couldn't make a stop the whole game, we take the blame off of them for the last drive?
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:22 am to
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And when he fumbles due to the extra contact, what do you say after that?


What if he fumbles trying to get extra yds instead of just falling to the ground?? See how I did that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:24 am to
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What if he fumbles trying to get extra yds instead of just falling to the ground?? See how I did that.


You're kinda hurting your own point with that one, but sure I see it.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:24 am to
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Posted by mm2316 quote: Both defenses couldnt make a stop. It was pretty clear who had the ball last would win the game. So because they couldn't make a stop the whole game, we take the blame off of them for the last drive?


We could control the clock. We were in the position of power. If we stay in bounds and force Atl to burn all of their TOs, it would have taken a goal line stand for ATL to win that game.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:26 am to
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Posted by LNCHBOX quote: What if he fumbles trying to get extra yds instead of just falling to the ground?? See how I did that. You're kinda hurting your own point with that one, but sure I see it.


What? U said what if he fumbled trying bc of extra contact trying to stay in bounds. Both times that went out of bounds, they were fighting for extra yds. If they would hsve just gone down then no extra contact.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:27 am to
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What? U said what if he fumbled trying bc of extra contact trying to stay in bounds. Both times that went out of bounds, they were fighting for extra yds. If they would hsve just gone down then no extra contact.


But then you say he fumbled doing what you suggest. Try to keep up.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:32 am to
U said he could fumble dropping to the ground. I said he could have fumbled fighting for extra yds that resulted in him wslking out of bounds (it didnt happen but could have). My point is you could fumble either way so your point is silly. Understand now??
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 8:34 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:34 am to
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My point is you could fumble either way so your point is silly. Understand now??


Well, we know the way it played out led to us scoring. That's all that matters. Trying to remove blame from the defense is just stupid.
Posted by mm2316
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:38 am to
There are a lot of reasons that we lost this game (turnover battle, no pass rush, 26 missed tackles), but Colston and Ingram going out of bounds are at the bottom of the list.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 8:40 am
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:38 am to
No one is removing blame from defense. Just saying it shouldnt have come to that.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:41 am to
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There are a lot of reasons that we lost this game (turnover battle, no pass rush), but Colston and Ingram going out of bounds are at the bottom of the list.


Why?? We were in total control. We would have been at essentially the same spot on the field and had essentially the same time on the clock. The difference being Atl had no TOs and would have needed a goal line stand to win the game.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:44 am to
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Why?? We were in total control. We would have been at essentially the same spot on the field and had essentially the same time on the clock. The difference being Atl had no TOs and would have needed a goal line stand to win the game


They don't go out of bounds, get less yards, we don't get a first, we miss the opportunity to score, we lose anyway. We tried to run it and lost yards on the goalline. When that happens you have to score.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 8:45 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:44 am to
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Just saying it shouldnt have come to that.


Again, super easy to say this in hindsight. It's like you're just choosing to be dense.
Posted by mm2316
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:45 am to
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Why??

Did you watch the first 3 1/2 quarters? Tackling was atrocious, there was 0 pass rush, and Brees threw a costly INT in the red zone. Like you said in your last post, "it shouldn't have come to that."

So you aren't willing to cite the reasons I just listed on why we lost, or the fact that the defense couldn't make a stop on the last drive, but you're so caught up on the fact that Ingram and Colston went out of bounds?

Posted by mm2316
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:46 am to
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hey don't go out of bounds, get less yards, we don't get a first, we miss the opportunity to score, we lose anyway.

Totally agree. To stay in bounds, Ingram and Colston would have hid to slide/dive before they even made contact with a defender, which would have been more than just losing 1 yard. You can't just throw yourself to the ground once a defender has you wrapped up. It's asinine to fault a player for fighting for yards in that situation.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 8:47 am
Posted by lacajun069
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:47 am to
I agree and said it after both ran put of bounds that we wereleaving too much time on the clock for Atlanta with three times outs. The game to me was lost with Bree's interception in the end zone and allowing Atlanta to march down the field before halftime to get a FG. the had 20 seconds with the ball on thier 25 yard line.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:49 am to
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the had 20 seconds with the ball on thier 25 yard line.


And we left a 40 yard cushion. That was some Gregg Williams retarded bullshite
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