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re: Charles Grant appears to be close to 300lbs.
Posted on 6/10/09 at 5:27 pm to Meateye
Posted on 6/10/09 at 5:27 pm to Meateye
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Clancy was good last year. As a starter.
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quote:I would have said the samething, you anwsered it with that repsonce. fwiw.
Oh yeah I forgot about him. Still think Grant would be better there
I think clancy is a solid nfl starter imo.
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Posted on 6/10/09 at 5:32 pm to tigerguy121
A cancer is a player getting too lackadaisical when he gets the big payday and not treating his body like it's his corporation. A cancer hangs out in shady places where a stabbing and murder of a pregnant woman go down. A cancer only produces his first 3 years in the league, then takes a few years off.
Posted on 6/10/09 at 5:34 pm to Tiger4
As posted in another thread, Grant could give guards & centers trouble because he's much quicker than the average DT. That would be a pretty nice DT rotation with Ellis/Clancy/Grant/Pressley. You could play him some snaps at DE if some guys go down.
Speaking of DE it should be interesting to see who wins the battle there during training camp for PT. Smith & McCray will probably be starters with Spicer/Hargrove/Charleston/Nincovich fighting for PT.
Speaking of DE it should be interesting to see who wins the battle there during training camp for PT. Smith & McCray will probably be starters with Spicer/Hargrove/Charleston/Nincovich fighting for PT.
Posted on 6/10/09 at 5:50 pm to Cleave Land
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A cancer is a player getting too lackadaisical when he gets the big payday and not treating his body like it's his corporation
makes them lazy and not a good player, not a cancer.
TO treats his body like a temple and has a great work ethic he is still a cancer to every team he has been on.
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A cancer hangs out in shady places where a stabbing and murder of a pregnant woman go down
not a good thing for grant to get stabbed and be there when this went down, but this had ZERO effect on the team.
Posted on 6/10/09 at 6:03 pm to eyeran
Hell, let him gain another 15-20 and play DT to try and get something out of him...Ellis and Grant... 
may be a good combo?
may be a good combo?Posted on 6/10/09 at 8:05 pm to lsubeer
Hellx2 let him gain 20-40 but let's add the desire to compete and dominate inside or out.
Posted on 6/10/09 at 8:59 pm to goatmilker
At first, I was all for Grant getting this extension, but if he keeps this up he needs to go. The man gets paid millions to stay in shape and play football. They aren't paying him to get like 4 sacks a season.
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:39 pm to Cleave Land
this motherfricker has been worthless as frick since he got paid
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:59 pm to SJS Eagle 85
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and he routinely is slow and lethargic. Just because he routinely plays at 290 doesn't mean he should.
he was hurt last year. When healthy he is good for 8-9 sacks and stout against the run.
he plays at that weight for a reason. shite when we drafted him he nearly weighed that much.
Posted on 6/10/09 at 11:18 pm to Lester Earl
sack totals
02: 7
03: 10
04: 10.5
05: 2.5
06: 6
07: 2.5
08: 3
and only 2 of those years he played less than 16 games
theres no debate grant has been worthless lately
02: 7
03: 10
04: 10.5
05: 2.5
06: 6
07: 2.5
08: 3
and only 2 of those years he played less than 16 games
theres no debate grant has been worthless lately
Posted on 6/10/09 at 11:21 pm to Lester Earl
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he plays at that weight for a reason. shite when we drafted him he nearly weighed that much.
I tried looking up his weight when drafted, but I couldn't find it. This very well could be true though. If so, maybe we are being too critical. I still thinking weighing less than 300 lbs would do him some good. I know he needs strength, but in the NFL these days he needs speed at that position. Every one of the top 5 sack leaders weighed under 270. This might be because 4 out of 5 the played in a 3-4 defense. Jared Allen weighs the most at 270
Posted on 6/10/09 at 11:26 pm to DBG
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theres no debate grant has been worthless lately
and he is consistently among the leaders at DE in tackles. He is great in run support
and last year played with a bad ankle all year. He'll be ok.
Posted on 6/10/09 at 11:30 pm to Lester Earl
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and he is consistently among the leaders at DE in tackles. He is great in run support
so what?
that means he's making, what, 50 tackles a year?
Posted on 6/10/09 at 11:49 pm to DBG
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This post was edited on 6/10/09 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 6/11/09 at 3:38 am to Meateye
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Look yall can believe me or not. I dont care.I got all kinds of inside stuff from this dude last year. Go back and look. Also we are not just running a 4-3 this year we will also run 3-4 sometimes.
How the frick are we going to run a 3-4 without a true nose tackle and only 1 good linebacker?
Posted on 6/11/09 at 4:32 am to Meateye
I don't think Meateye's point is without merit. Grant played DT (on passing 3rd downs) before and played it well.
He's always been under appreciated against the run and I think having a stout DE/DT isn't the worst thing in the world.
No question he hasn't been worth extension, and I'll admit that I was one of his most ardent supporters in 2006 when most Saints fans were saying that we should let him walk.
He's always been under appreciated against the run and I think having a stout DE/DT isn't the worst thing in the world.
No question he hasn't been worth extension, and I'll admit that I was one of his most ardent supporters in 2006 when most Saints fans were saying that we should let him walk.
This post was edited on 6/11/09 at 4:33 am
Posted on 6/11/09 at 9:07 am to Lester Earl
quote:he's hurt every year
he was hurt last year
quote:then he hasn't been healthy since 2004
When healthy he is good for 8-9 sacks and stout against the run.
quote:because he can't keep the fricking fork out of his mouth
he plays at that weight for a reason
quote:he was listed at 285. that fat mother hasn't been under 300 since he was drafted. he's looked more like a DT than a DE since the day he put on pads
shite when we drafted him he nearly weighed that much.
This post was edited on 6/11/09 at 9:08 am
Posted on 6/11/09 at 11:13 am to Edible Dirt
quote:He also has an extra 4 weeks doesn't he?
He has time to shed the weight
I don't think either of them will be resigned, even if they both blow up this year or next year. Which they won't do both. Neither one has shown that he is capable of being consistently good.
This post was edited on 6/11/09 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/11/09 at 11:29 am to Cleave Land
In '06 he was valuable as a DT. I always thought he was more productive as a DT.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 12:47 pm to Graeculi
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In '06 he was valuable as a DT. I always thought he was more productive as a DT.
He's taken about a dozen snaps at DT almost all of which were this year when Gibbs would put McCray on the outside opposite Smith on 3rd down passing situations.This post was edited on 6/12/09 at 4:09 pm
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