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Can the Saints D Be Salvaged (ESPN Insider)

Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:12 am
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:12 am
Does anyone have access to insider? Seems like a good read.

Can the New Orleans Saints Defense Be Salvaged?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64239 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:14 am to
I think the D is closer to being salvaged than the offense at this point.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:21 am to
Yup. The offense has been losing us games. Outside of four drives the defense has been solid, holding teams to FGs more than TDs, and forced some turnovers (and had their hands on four more INTs).

The offense has been anemic in almost every aspect.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64239 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:22 am to
Especially considering the turnovers and position the D has been placed in/long periods of offensive ineptitude .
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21231 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:28 am to
The defense has had its share of bad moments, but they've kept us in both games. I don't even count that last TD that Arizona scored. Take that away and the defense has given up 25 points a game. And keep in mind they have been put in some bad situations because of the offense. With the offense we are all accustomed to, we easily score 28-30 a game.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:30 am to
This defense has been better than I thought and feel it will get better. But they cannot give up conversions on third and long. They have to get off the field and they have to find a pass rush. I don't think we'll see much of a pass rush with the front four all season.
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:32 am to
Lewis and Ellerbe returning can only help, but any defense lives and dies by the pass rush. As long as Cam is our only legitimate source of pass rushing, it will be hard to expect much improvement. Kikaha has shown some flashes, but it's tough to ask him to become a big time player this early in his career.

Hopefully with a year under their belts next year, Kikaha, Anthony, and Davison can become the future of the defense along with Cam, Lewis, and Vaccaro.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:37 am to
True dat, especially with all the youth
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 9:37 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30580 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:57 am to
Copy and paste the article, no one pays for that crap
Posted by SuperSoakher
Member since Jun 2012
4585 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:05 am to
Dont forget swann!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56547 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:26 am to
quote:

I think the D is closer to being salvaged than the offense at this point.



The defense definitely played better than the offense on Sunday.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64366 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:32 am to
A safety who was cut is now our starter.
A rookie at #3 CB
A young canadian player at #1 CB
A guy not on our team last year at #2 CB
A rookie at MLB
A rookie at OLB
A rookie at DT
A guy most don't know is on the team may start at DE

Gee...what could be going on?
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:35 am to
quote:

A young canadian player at #1 CB
ISWYDT
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64366 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:37 am to


Wasn't sure if he was classified as a rookie or not!
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:57 am to
insider links suck, post it
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:58 am to
Our defense is unhealthy for the most part, and we still have little to no pass rush, but our defense is still fine. The offense is the one with the issues. Having too many turnovers, having more field goals than touchdowns, and having an increase in 3 and outs are huge issues for the offense, which have been going on a lot of last year too.
Posted by jamsmiley
Zachary La
Member since Nov 2008
632 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:19 am to
The New Orleans Saints have lost six games in a row at home, which is unbelievable considering they once won 11 straight in the Superdome during the 2013 and 2014 seasons.
A big reason for their massive drop-off? Their defense, which allowed just 17.1 points per game during the 2013-14 steak, compared to 30.8 over its past six home games.

After another poor showing, is this defense salvageable? Let's take a look at the personnel.

Secondary Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan has a history of being too complex and putting too much stress on his cornerbacks. That's a big reason why New Orleans has allowed the third-highest Total QBR to opposing quarterbacks (70.5) since the beginning of last season.

The Saints tried to address their depth issues at cornerback this offseason by signing Brandon Browner and Delvin Breaux, both of whom are physical press-man corners. The problem? They're also both drawing far too many penalties.

Linebacker
You knew the Saints were going to be in trouble at outside linebacker after they released stud pass-rusher Junior Galette due to off-field concerns. At this point in his career, David Hawthorne is just a two-down player who brings very little playmaking ability off the edge

Defensive line
Neither of the other two starters -- John Jenkins and Akiem Hicks -- is a superb pass-rusher (7.5 combined career sacks in 77 games), but they both have great size. Jenkins in particular has been a fantastic inside presence against the run.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16744 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:23 am to
"We'll be fine"

remember that worn out phrase from Jim Haslett?

...but i actually do believe it on defense. We'll only get better as long as we get healthier.

now the offense on the other hand....
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:24 am to
Stunning analysis...who actually pays for this crap?
Posted by StarSaint
lafayette
Member since Nov 2006
7490 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:39 am to
I don't know what's worse...

Their assumption about the D being the issue or the fact that ESPN is trying to pimp "insider" as thing still....
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