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Brees Injury in SD - Franchise year?
Posted on 3/18/12 at 9:19 am
Posted on 3/18/12 at 9:19 am
Was Brees playing on franchise tag when he got hurt? Did that mean the Chargers had no further contractual obligations, other than medical? No guaranteed money after that year?
If the above is true, not sure, would Drew just sit until long term deal done with Saints?
If the above is true, not sure, would Drew just sit until long term deal done with Saints?
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 9:21 am to dietcoke7
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Brees' resistance to the franchise tag dates to 2005, when he was tagged by the San Diego Chargers. At the time, a more naïve Brees embraced the designation, largely because it more than quadrupled his salary. Nine months later he regretted it after shredding his right shoulder in the final game of the season against Denver.
"I've played under the franchise tag before, back in 2005, and that ended with 13 anchors in my right shoulder and a 25 percent chance of playing football again," Brees said on ESPN radio last week. "That didn't work out too well for me."
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This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 9:22 am
Posted on 3/18/12 at 9:21 am to dietcoke7
He said as much in his interview on M&M. Regardless I don't think the plan of the FO is to have him play this year under the tag.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 9:55 am to Patrick O Rly
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He said as much in his interview on M&M. Regardless I don't think the plan of the FO is to have him play this year under the tag.
He will be signed before the season starts. No doubt in my mind.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 10:36 am to GOON
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He will be signed before the season starts.
As soon as Peyton signs, Brees will not be that much further behind. Brees and his agent is going to get more than Manning, and they will use that as a measuring stick.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 10:37 am to GOON
Drew would not sign a tag unless it came down to the last day.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 11:02 am to goatmilker
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Drew would not sign a tag unless it came down to the last day.
that's July 15 if remembering correctly
so if PM signs next week and we're at draft time or past with no Brees deal don't be upset. The tag cap amt ($16mil-ish) will prolly be lower than his contract number. That will allow a little more cap flexibility to get through FA & the draft. After that shakes out they can cut n redo deals to fit whatever it will take to accommodate his contract. I'm guessing in May sometime.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 11:11 am to blueslover
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blueslover
Help me out with something please.
If Manning signs today lets say, does his contract affect the amount of the franchise tag for Brees? Or does the tag use the numbers from last year to compute his salary?
Posted on 3/18/12 at 11:20 am to jembeurt
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Help me out with something please.
If Manning signs today lets say, does his contract affect the amount of the franchise tag for Brees? Or does the tag use the numbers from last year to compute his salary?
The tag amount is the average of the top five paid players of that particular position from the previous season.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 11:24 am to GOON
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The tag amount is the average of the top five paid players of that particular position from the previous season.
Not true anymore
Posted on 3/18/12 at 11:42 am to wildtigercat93
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Not true anymore
OK, you're right:
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An "exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams. The player's team has all the negotiating rights to the exclusive player.
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 11:43 am
Posted on 3/18/12 at 11:46 am to GOON
Thanks boys.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 12:10 pm to jembeurt
you got it, when his last deal was voided that actually lowered the tag amt. The date when the numbers are set to be official I dunno. That blurb said April. I would think it would have to be set last Tuesday. Otherwise it will be a constantly changing number. That or they readjust it one more time in April when FA & the draft is over.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 6:00 pm to goatmilker
quote:Nope. Brees will sit out the entire season before signing the tag. This needs to get done by July 15th., or else...
Drew would not sign a tag unless it came down to the last day.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 7:11 pm to JazzyJeff
Question. If the Saints don't sign brees to a long term deal and he sits out, is Brees then a free agent and able to sign with any team?
I was under the impression even if he sits out and doesn't play we still can franchise tag him for 2 more years. I Was debating this with my father n law.
I was under the impression even if he sits out and doesn't play we still can franchise tag him for 2 more years. I Was debating this with my father n law.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 7:25 pm to bababooey
If he doesn't signed to a new deal and refuses to play under the franchise tag, then he doesn't play this upcoming season. The franchise tag means the rights to that player belong to the team that franchises him, for the whole season, whether they play or not.
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 3/18/12 at 7:52 pm to GOON
I understand all that. My father n law said under that scenario after the sit out year he will then be eligible to sign with any team.
I was certain Saints still can use the tag for 2 more years even if brees refuses to sign tag and sits at home.
Which scenario is correct?
I was certain Saints still can use the tag for 2 more years even if brees refuses to sign tag and sits at home.
Which scenario is correct?
Posted on 3/18/12 at 8:12 pm to bababooey
quote:The Saints can tag him for two more seasons and each year the salary the Saints would have to pay Brees would increase.
Which scenario is correct?
In theory, counting this season, Brees could sit out for three consecutive seasons and not be able to play football with another team.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 9:27 pm to Breesus
Brees seems to be saying he doesn't want to play under the franchise tag becasue of the risk of injury.
What is the difference in risk playing under the franchise tag or his playing last year when he was in the last year of a contract?
What is the difference in risk playing under the franchise tag or his playing last year when he was in the last year of a contract?
Posted on 3/18/12 at 9:31 pm to CarrolltonTiger
There's always risk, but now he's up again the ledge of his final contract. The only real difference is last year he was playing under something he already sign while as of right now he hasn't signed anything for this year.
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