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re: Benson: Heirs "tried to kill me"

Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:18 am to
Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:18 am to
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Tom Benson's wealth came primarily from the success of the New Orleans Saints under Payton. He wasn't that rich before!


Posted by Breesy9
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:20 am to
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and sooner or later more sooner he will push for a new stadium


He's 88 and just paid $25 million for the saints to have the largest indoor video boards

He doesn't have a later
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:34 am to
The bottom line is if he "loved" the State of LA he wouldn't be holding them hostage on the Superdome deal. The leges have expressed interest under multiple governors to get a better deal....Benson has balked every time.

Benson is no friend of the state....he is in it to make money. There is no problem with this at all...but to paint the man as some kind of savior or "Louisian's favorite son" is down right idiotic.
Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:44 am to
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The bottom line is if he "loved" the State of LA he wouldn't be holding them hostage on the Superdome deal. The leges have expressed interest under multiple governors to get a better deal....Benson has balked every time.



They re-did the deal under Jindal at the state's asking. They literally did what you're stating.

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Benson is no friend of the state....he is in it to make money. 


Of course he's in it to make money

But lately, he's been giving that money away to causes around the city of new orleans

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but to paint the man as some kind of savior or "Louisian's favorite son" is down right idiotic.


His purchase of both the Saints and Pels are the biggest reason they are still here. Saints would be in Jacksonville if he hadn't bought them...people seem to forget that.

I wouldn't call him a savior, but there are few people who have had a bigger impact on new orleans. That's the bottom line.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 9:47 am
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:52 am to
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They literally did what you're stating.


Good job Mercedes Benz.

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he's been giving that money away to causes around the city of new orleans


Show me any human being worth 2 billion that doesn't.

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His purchase of both the Saints and Pels are the biggest reason they are still here. Saints would be in Jacksonville if he hadn't bought them...people seem to forget that.


No doubt he is great for the Saints....hell they wouldn't have won a Superbowl without the man.
Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:53 am to
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Show me any human being worth 2 billion that doesn't.


How many billionaires does new orleans have?

I guess being rich makes that money less useful. That $20 million to Oschner's Cancer Center is nothing to turn your nose at

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Good job Mercedes Benz.


You should learn the "facts" before making comments. The new agreement was made in 2009 under Jindal making your previous statement just wrong.

I'd argue that it has easily been a great deal for New Orleans with the improvement of the area. Benson Tower was in ruins and the state didn't have the money to renovate it. The deal wasn't as good for the state, but that is the bullshite state of the NFL these days relying on public money
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 10:11 am
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:20 am to
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I guess being rich makes that money less useful.


Not at all....but that doesn't change the fact that he did it for the tax break. If holding on to that money doesn't cost him money....he holds it.

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The new agreement was made in 2009 under Jindal making your previous statement just wrong.


Not exactly that 2009 deal lessened the burden on the state. The 2011 Mercedes Benz naming rights agreement took the burden away basically.

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The deal wasn't as good for the state


Your damn right it wasn't....it took a very shitty immediately unsustainable deal to the realm of just shitty and sustainable for a few years.

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the bullshite state of the NFL these days relying on public money


No way should the states have to prop up these teams.
Posted by Breesy9
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:06 am to
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Not at all....but that doesn't change the fact that he did it for the tax break. If holding on to that money doesn't cost him money....he holds it.




What do you think tax "breaks" are on charitable donations?

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No way should the states have to prop up these teams.



Agreed
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 11:10 am
Posted by tubucoco
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:01 pm to
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He doesn't have a later
As if I was really serious with the later part. New Orleans needs a new stadium. How many lives do you think the Superdome has?? The main reason they lost out to Atlanta yesterday on a Super bowl bid. These owners know what a great host city New Orleans is and has been.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 2:09 pm
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:02 pm to
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LOL
Was he super rich before the Saints success??
Posted by Breesy9
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:42 pm to
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Was he super rich before the Saints success??


Yes, as any owner of an NFL team is

Only 32 available and not many ever go for sale. Or are you under the impression that the growth of the NFL is related to the Saints success under Payton

The saints and pelicans were both bought for incredible values given the growth of the both leagues
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Breesy9
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:46 pm to
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As if I was really serious with the later part.


I hope the whole idiotic post was in jest.

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New Orleans needs a new stadium


Nope

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How many lives do you think the Superdome has?? 


How many lives? What does that even mean? Are there structural issues with the dome that haven't been shared?

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The main reason they lost out to Atlanta yesterday on a Super bowl bid. 


If you build a new stadium, you get a Super Bowl. That doesn't mean you should build a stadium to get a Super Bowl.

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These owners know what a great host city New Orleans is and has been.


Should be an easy sell then as long as we're not going up a brand new stadium.

Derp

~$320m in 2006
~$340m in 2011
~$25m this offseason

Should be able to get some use out of that structure.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 2:56 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:08 pm to
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Didn't read but I don't believe for one minute that his family tried to kill him. I do however believe that his gold digging wife convinced him that they did.


My first thought
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 7:12 pm to
And what does that 385 over 12 years compare to the money LA will take in over the next decade(estimated)?


Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:15 pm to
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I hope the whole idiotic post was in jest.
watch yourself jester. you seem to call a lot of people on here idiotic as if you're smart. lol

And I'm not gonna take the time to repost all that other crap you wrote, but will just say that if you don't think the Superdome needs to go or just be rebuilt or redesigned then you and others like you continue to live in neverland. See if they ever get another Superbowl with structure and all?? Also, Benson's wealth coincided with the success of the Saints as I've said for the 99th time under Payton with them winning a SB and all. Not all that NFL gibberish you are saying. Sure, he was rich before, but nothing like the success he generated afterwards with marketing sales for the team going through the roof and all.(They basically took Dallas' place as America's team after the Katrina tragedy = $$$) That kind of profit allowed him to buy another pro franchise.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 8:39 pm
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:32 pm to
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Didn't read but I don't believe for one minute that his family tried to kill him. I do however believe that his gold digging wife convinced him that they did


Downvoters I guess never experienced a gold digger. I've seen it and it usually plays out just like this.

Relative of mine dated Gayle for a few months. After they broke up, I asked him what happened, he said "I don't have enough money for her." He later married another gold digger who is doing the same thing. It's sad.
Posted by Breesy9
Member since May 2016
197 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:01 pm to
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watch yourself jester. you seem to call a lot of people on here idiotic as if you're smart. lol



If your shoe fits....

Lol

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And I'm not gonna take the time to repost all that other crap you wrote, 


Yet wrote a novel

I'm sorry that responding to logic is so hard for you.

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Also, Benson's wealth coincided with the success of the Saints as I've said for the 99th time under Payton with them winning a SB and all. 


Is this a coherent thought?

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Superdome needs to go or just be rebuilt or redesigned then you and others like you continue to live in neverland.


engrish

What is wrong with the structure of the superdome? What do you mean by redesigned? It has been redesigned recently. No reason to build a new stadium, in a different location, as long as there aren't structural issues. I go to a road game every year and live in Houston. Having a retractable roof is a complete waste. The Texans never open theirs for a reason.

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See if they ever get another Superbowl with structure and all?? 


So we should build a new structure to get a Super bowl? That's easily worth $1+ billion. The Dome is still competing with the new stadiums for these Super Bowls (finishing 2nd twice). Any new stadium is guaranteed a Super Bowl with tax payer money going towards it. It is how the payments are justified.

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That kind of profit allowed him to buy another pro franchise.




Nothing to do with the growth of the NFL, or the fact that the Pels were bought for dirt cheap

Idiot
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 9:04 am
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:40 am to
Everything you just said is completely idiotic. "engrish" ?? "wrote a novel"?? Do you not understand what reposts means?? Well you certainly don't know what the hell redesign means?? lol

And so because the superdome has a good, solid structure. That's reason to keep it?? Okay. What an idiot! They finished 2nd twice because of the venue, idiot, not the dome. New Orleans has always been a popular tourist destination without the dome. But argue on tard.

and Benson's surge in wealth had nothing to do with the success of the Saints after Katrina, right?? Just the NFL according to you. And I'm the idiot, dumb arse.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 10:09 am
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7192 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:49 am to
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If my grandpa was about to leave me a nfl team I would be sucking his arse and doing whatever he said. some people can frick up a wet dream


If your Grand Pa married a younger woman that wants every cent he has you would panic.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:54 am to
They don't wanna believe it.
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