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re: Anzalone: The real Head Shaker???

Posted on 4/29/17 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 12:12 pm to
Carl Lawson will be an animal getting to the QB in the NFL and they passed on him to take this guy. lol
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22796 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 12:20 pm to
IDK understand why the forearm would be listed as an injury concern. That seems like a freak accident that a player should be able to come back from with low probability of future issues.
Posted by Will Munny
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
3077 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:14 pm to
Get in the Zone. Anal Zone.
Posted by Mouthulcer
Metairie
Member since Feb 2015
639 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:27 pm to
Analzone will fill the tight gaps hard and fast. He will leave anyone in his way exhausted and sore when they think they can stop his defensive penetration.
Posted by Brisket
Over dere
Member since Dec 2009
933 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:34 pm to
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Carl Lawson will be an animal getting to the QB in the NFL and they passed on him to take this guy. lol



I agree, and I think what was holding Lawson back was his height. The man can play football, shouldn't care about the size as much
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:35 pm to
Highwayyyyy to the anal zone
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:36 pm to
He filled the hole and stuffed the center and exploded in covering the tight end. lol
This post was edited on 4/29/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:43 pm to
Lawson is 6'2" that's tall enough, I've seen shorter like Dwight Freeney play. But Lawson is a explosive player with a flurry of pass rush moves, but it's too late now.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66481 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:47 pm to
Beckwith is a MLB.

We could use a MLB or any LB really.

I get not taking him because of Iniury concern but taking a guy who is cant make it trough a full season is insane.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:47 pm to
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Carl Lawson will be an animal getting to the QB in the NFL and they passed on him to take this guy. lol



Lol

Carl Lawson, the beast pass rusher, was on the board for another 40 picks despite being the 2nd or 3rd most valuable position in the NFL. Apparently the value wasn't there for all those other teams either

Hell, he lasted 10+ picks past our next 3rd round pick, Hendrickson.
This post was edited on 4/29/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:50 pm to
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Beckwith is a MLB.


He's a 2 down MLB most likely, which is still good, but I wouldn't call it a huge need for us with Klein and Robinson able to play that position

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but taking a guy who is cant make it trough a full season is insane.


It's a boom/bust pick. The forearm injury is meaningless, the shoulder injuries are concerning. The only reason a guy like him drops with numbers is due to injury.

He's a much more valuable skillset in the NFL due to his athleticism and ability to not only cover, but go after the passer.

I hope we check that shoulder really well. We got to see a lot of him this offseason though
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:51 pm to
And so, what's your point??
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:53 pm to
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And so, what's your point??


Really need to explain?

That we passed on him to take Hendrickson later in the 3rd round, and almost every other team in the NFL passed on him, despite being at the most valuable defensive position, for another 40 picks.

Clearly great value at pick 76. That's why other teams jumped at the chance to grab him a whole 40 picks later

We could have traded a 3rd next year to grab Lawson too if we so desired.
This post was edited on 4/29/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68199 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:56 pm to
Anzalone was graded higher than Beckwith by many.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 1:59 pm to
I figured it would be something stupid like that. Listen, teams make dumb mistakes all the time, whatever their reasons for passing on him who the hell knows and cares. Might be some personality issues or some shite, but the guy was a force for Auburn in the always tough SEC and when he's tallying up sacks and being disruptive for who is it that drafted him, Cincy, I think. I'll laugh my arse off at how stupid they were for passing.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 2:08 pm to
Certainly possible as I liked him too.

But your issue isn't with passing over him in the 70s, it should be with passing over him with the other 3rd round pick.

He clearly wasn't the top DE on not just our board, but other team's boards that early as he fell into the 4th.

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something stupid like that


Yea, being drafted 40 spots later clearly shows that the Saints FO was retarded for not grabbing him

He'll, why not take him in the 2nd or at 32?

Now personally, even with Hendrickson, I would have tried to jump back in with next year's 3rd to grab him when he fell to the 4th.

He's an injury risk too though....

Bottom line: After our first 3rd rounder, there were SIX other edge players taken before Lawson was picked. That includes that silly Bill Bellicheck taking Rivers over him (along with an OT) despite pass rusher being their biggest need.
This post was edited on 4/29/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66481 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 5:44 pm to
How is he boom or bust?

He wasn't exactly the greatest player on earth when he was on the field.

And he was never on the field.

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

How is he boom or bust?




4.6 speed with good size that can outside. A 241 lb linebacker that has the ability to cover downfield while also being able to go after the passer

Top 5 in all athletic measurables for a LB

quote:

He wasn't exactly the greatest player on earth when he was on the field.


He was pretty damn good

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Prior to his arm injury, Anzalone ranked second on the team in tackles (53) and statistically was one of the most productive linebackers in the SEC. He had 2.5 sacks through the first two games of 2016, registered a career-high 12 tackles at Tennessee and also made 8 tackles against Arkansas and Missouri.


Finished 3rd in tackles for a good Gators D despite playing in 8 games

He was also very impressive in his workouts as mentioned by multiple analysts.

The shoulders are concerning, but he had a full year without that issue presenting itself. The broken arm is meaningless and he's likely miss a few weeks tops with a fluke like that.
This post was edited on 4/29/17 at 5:56 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66481 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 6:14 pm to
He had 53 tackles in 8 games

Beckwith had 91 in 10.

Beckwith had more career sacks had more career int.

I don't know how you evaluate a guy like Anzalone when he only played 8 games as a starter and half of them are vs teams like N. Texas and UMass.
Posted by SlowurRole
Arabi
Member since Dec 2011
799 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 7:15 pm to
Anzalone is a beast IF healthy. That's a pretty big if, but the the Saints staff is expecting him to be a Clay Matthews type LB.(create pressure on the QB) I've watched him play quite a bit and he's relentless.

IF he's healthy he'll be a fan favorite. But he could also live on IR
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