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2017 looks to complete the rebuild
Posted on 9/15/16 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 9/15/16 at 7:39 pm
We're actually looking very good starting in 2017 & beyond imo. We have a few high/med draft picks & plenty of money in F.A. We're not nearly as far away as some people think.
These are a few of our best seasons from the recent past compared to our current roster.
2009 RB
RB - Pierre Thomas - UDFA
RB - Reggie Bush - Drafted 2006 pick 2
RB - Mike Bell - FA
FB - Heath Evans - FA
2011 RB
RB - Pierre Thomas - UDFA
RB - Mark Ingram - Drafted 2011 pick 28
RB - Darren Sproles - FA
RB - Chris Ivory - UDFA
FB - Jed Collins - FA
2013 RB
RB - Pierre Thomas - UDFA
RB - Mark Ingram - Drafted 2011 pick 28
RB - Darren Sproles - FA
RB - Khiry Robinson - UDFA
FB - Jed Collins - FA
2016 RB - Position is ok for now. Might use a late round pick or hit on an udfa.
RB - Mark Ingram - Drafted 2011 pick 28
RB - Tim Hightower - FA
RB - Travaris Cadet - UDFA
RB - Daniel Lasco - Drafted 2016 pick 237
FB - John Kuhn - FA
2009 WR -
WR- Marques Colston - Drafted 2006 pick 252
WR- Devery Henderson - Drafted 2004 pick 50
WR- Robert Meachem - Drafted 2007 pick 27
WR- Lance Moore - FA
TE- Jeremy Shockey - Traded
TE- David Thomas - Traded
2011 WR
WR- Marques Colston - Drafted 2006 pick 252
WR- Lance Moore - FA
WR- Devery Henderson - Drafted 2004 pick 50
WR- Robert Meachem - Drafted 2007 pick 27
TE- Jimmy Graham - Drafted 2010 pick 95
2013 WR
WR- Marques Colston - Drafted 2006 pick 252
WR - Kenny Stills - drafted 2013 pick 144
WR- Lance Moore - FA
WR- Robert Meachem - Drafted 2007 pick 27
TE- Jimmy Graham - Drafted 2010 pick 95
TE - Ben Watson - FA
2016 WR - Best young corp in the league. Not a need at all.
WR - Brandin Cooks - Drafted 2014 pick 20
WR - Willie Snead - FA
WR - Michael Thomas - Drafted 2016 pick 47
WR - Brandon Coleman - UDFA
TE - Coby Fleener - FA
TE - Josh Hill - UDFA
TE - Hooman - Traded
2009 OL
OL - Jermon Bushrod - Drafted 2007 pick 125
OL - Carl Nicks - Drafted 2008 pick 164
OL - Jonathan Goodwin - FA
OL - Jahri Evans - Drafted 2006 pick 108
OL - Jon Stinchcomb - Drafted 2003 pick 37
2011 OL
OL - Jermon Bushrod - Drafted 2007 pick 125
OL - Carl Nicks - Drafted 2008 pick 164
OL - Brian De La Puente - FA
OL - Jahri Evans - Drafted 2006 pick 108
OL - Zach Strief - Drafted 2006 pick 210
2013 OL
OL - Charles Brown - Drafted 2010 pick 64
OL - Ben Grubbs - FA
OL - Brian De La Puente - FA
OL - Jahri Evans - Drafted 2006 pick 108
OL - Zach Strief - Drafted 2006 pick 210
2016 OL - They looked great on Sunday, but it's only a matter of time until that right side wears down. Probably need 2 more guys in 2017. High draft pick and/or starter via F.A.
OL - Terron Armstead - Drafted 2013 pick 75
OL - Andrus Peat - Drafted 2015 pick 13
OL - Max Unger - Traded
OL - Jahri Evans - Drafted 2006 pick 108
OL - Zach Strief - Drafted 2006 pick 210
OL - Senio Kelemete - FA
OL - Tim Lelito - UDFA
OL - Landon Turner - UDFA
2009 DL
DE - Charles Grant - Drafted 2002 pick 25
DE - Will Smith - Drafted 2004 pick 18
DE - Bobby McCray - FA
DT - Sedrick Ellis - Drafted 2008 pick 7
DT - Remi Ayodele - FA
DT - Anhtony Hargrove - FA
2011 DL
DE - Will Smith - Drafted 2004 pick 18
DE - Cameron Jordan - Drafted 2011 pick 24
DE - Junior Galette - UDFA
DT - Sedrick Ellis - Drafted 2008 pick 7
DT - Aubrayo Franklin - FA
DT - Shaun Rogers - FA
2013 DL
DE - Cameron Jordan - Drafted 2011 pick 24
DE - Akiem Hicks - Drafted 2012 pick 89
DE - Glenn Foster - UDFA
DT - Broderick Bunkley - FA
DT - John Jenkins - Drafted 2013 pick 82
2016 DL - I like our DT's...hopefully we can sign Fairley again in 2017(Glad we hit on him). We need to use a high draft on DE or sign a starter via F.A. Kikaha is still developing. We're just doing patchwork right now. Onyemata might be the answer in a few seasons...still very raw.
DE - Cameron Jordan - Drafted 2011 pick 24
DE - Paul Kruger - FA
DE - Kasim Edebali - UDFA
DE - Darryl Tapp - FA
DE - Obum Gwachum - FA
DE - David Onyemata - Drafted 2016 pick 120
DT - Sheldon Rankins - Drafted 2016 pick 13
DT - Nick Fairley - FA
DT - Tyeler Davison - Drafted 2015 pick 154
DT - John Jenkins - Drafted 2013 pick 82
2009 LB
LB - Jonathan Vilma - Traded
LB - Scott Fujita - FA
LB - Scott Shanle - Traded
LB - Marvin Mitchell - Drafted 2007 pick 220
2011 LB
LB - Jonathan Vilma - Traded
LB - Jo-Lonn Dunbar - UDFA
LB - Scott Shanle - Traded
LB - Jonathan Casillas - FA
2013 LB
LB - Junior Galette - UDFA
LB - Parys Haralson - Traded
LB - Curtis Lofton - FA
LB - David Hawthorne - FA
2016 LB - Can't really count on Ellerbe. Same as DE...need 1 guy with high draft pick or starter via F.A. Robertson was a steal.
LB - Dannell Ellerbe - Traded
LB - Stephone Anthony - Drafted 2015 pick 31
LB - Craig Robertson - FA
LB - James Laurinaitis - FA
LB - Nate Stupar - FA
LB - Michael Mauti - FA
2009 DB
CB - Jabari Greer - FA
CB - Tracy Porter - Drafted 2008 pick 40
CB - Mike McKenzie - Traded
CB - Randall Gay - FA
CB - Malcolm Jenkins - Drafted 2009 pick 14
S - Darren Sharper - FA
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
2011 DB
CB - Jabari Greer - FA
CB - Tracy Porter - Drafted 2008 pick 40
CB - Patrick Robinson - Drafted 2010 pick 32
S - Malcolm Jenkins - Drafted 2009 pick 14
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
S - Isa Abdul-Qudus - UDFA
2013 DB
CB - Jabari Greer - FA
CB - Keenan Lewis - FA
CB - Corey White - Drafted 2012 pick 162
S - Malcolm Jenkins - Drafted 2009 pick 14
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
S - Kenny Vaccaro - Drafted 2013 pick 15
S - Rafael Bush - FA
2016 DB - I actually like this group a lot a year from now. PJ Williams looked good against a respectable passing game. I like him and Delvin as starters. We'll probably cut Byrd next year and use the money saved to buy a F.A. Vaccaro is in a contract year. Hopefully we get him for a good price.
CB - Delvin Breaux - FA
CB - PJ Williams - Drafted 2015 pick 78
CB - DeVante Harris - UDFA
CB - Sterling Moore - FA
CB - Ken Crawley - UDFA
S - Jairus Byrd - FA
S - Kenny Vaccaro - Drafted 2013 pick 15
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
S - Vonn Bell - Drafted 2016 pick 61
Our offense will continue to roll in 2017 if we handle the right side of our OL properly. If Evans & Strief are done, then we need to hit on their replacements.
The defense looks decent on paper when everybody is healthy. Combine that with the big additions we are sure to make on defense and OL, 2017 looks very good imo.
These are a few of our best seasons from the recent past compared to our current roster.
2009 RB
RB - Pierre Thomas - UDFA
RB - Reggie Bush - Drafted 2006 pick 2
RB - Mike Bell - FA
FB - Heath Evans - FA
2011 RB
RB - Pierre Thomas - UDFA
RB - Mark Ingram - Drafted 2011 pick 28
RB - Darren Sproles - FA
RB - Chris Ivory - UDFA
FB - Jed Collins - FA
2013 RB
RB - Pierre Thomas - UDFA
RB - Mark Ingram - Drafted 2011 pick 28
RB - Darren Sproles - FA
RB - Khiry Robinson - UDFA
FB - Jed Collins - FA
2016 RB - Position is ok for now. Might use a late round pick or hit on an udfa.
RB - Mark Ingram - Drafted 2011 pick 28
RB - Tim Hightower - FA
RB - Travaris Cadet - UDFA
RB - Daniel Lasco - Drafted 2016 pick 237
FB - John Kuhn - FA
2009 WR -
WR- Marques Colston - Drafted 2006 pick 252
WR- Devery Henderson - Drafted 2004 pick 50
WR- Robert Meachem - Drafted 2007 pick 27
WR- Lance Moore - FA
TE- Jeremy Shockey - Traded
TE- David Thomas - Traded
2011 WR
WR- Marques Colston - Drafted 2006 pick 252
WR- Lance Moore - FA
WR- Devery Henderson - Drafted 2004 pick 50
WR- Robert Meachem - Drafted 2007 pick 27
TE- Jimmy Graham - Drafted 2010 pick 95
2013 WR
WR- Marques Colston - Drafted 2006 pick 252
WR - Kenny Stills - drafted 2013 pick 144
WR- Lance Moore - FA
WR- Robert Meachem - Drafted 2007 pick 27
TE- Jimmy Graham - Drafted 2010 pick 95
TE - Ben Watson - FA
2016 WR - Best young corp in the league. Not a need at all.
WR - Brandin Cooks - Drafted 2014 pick 20
WR - Willie Snead - FA
WR - Michael Thomas - Drafted 2016 pick 47
WR - Brandon Coleman - UDFA
TE - Coby Fleener - FA
TE - Josh Hill - UDFA
TE - Hooman - Traded
2009 OL
OL - Jermon Bushrod - Drafted 2007 pick 125
OL - Carl Nicks - Drafted 2008 pick 164
OL - Jonathan Goodwin - FA
OL - Jahri Evans - Drafted 2006 pick 108
OL - Jon Stinchcomb - Drafted 2003 pick 37
2011 OL
OL - Jermon Bushrod - Drafted 2007 pick 125
OL - Carl Nicks - Drafted 2008 pick 164
OL - Brian De La Puente - FA
OL - Jahri Evans - Drafted 2006 pick 108
OL - Zach Strief - Drafted 2006 pick 210
2013 OL
OL - Charles Brown - Drafted 2010 pick 64
OL - Ben Grubbs - FA
OL - Brian De La Puente - FA
OL - Jahri Evans - Drafted 2006 pick 108
OL - Zach Strief - Drafted 2006 pick 210
2016 OL - They looked great on Sunday, but it's only a matter of time until that right side wears down. Probably need 2 more guys in 2017. High draft pick and/or starter via F.A.
OL - Terron Armstead - Drafted 2013 pick 75
OL - Andrus Peat - Drafted 2015 pick 13
OL - Max Unger - Traded
OL - Jahri Evans - Drafted 2006 pick 108
OL - Zach Strief - Drafted 2006 pick 210
OL - Senio Kelemete - FA
OL - Tim Lelito - UDFA
OL - Landon Turner - UDFA
2009 DL
DE - Charles Grant - Drafted 2002 pick 25
DE - Will Smith - Drafted 2004 pick 18
DE - Bobby McCray - FA
DT - Sedrick Ellis - Drafted 2008 pick 7
DT - Remi Ayodele - FA
DT - Anhtony Hargrove - FA
2011 DL
DE - Will Smith - Drafted 2004 pick 18
DE - Cameron Jordan - Drafted 2011 pick 24
DE - Junior Galette - UDFA
DT - Sedrick Ellis - Drafted 2008 pick 7
DT - Aubrayo Franklin - FA
DT - Shaun Rogers - FA
2013 DL
DE - Cameron Jordan - Drafted 2011 pick 24
DE - Akiem Hicks - Drafted 2012 pick 89
DE - Glenn Foster - UDFA
DT - Broderick Bunkley - FA
DT - John Jenkins - Drafted 2013 pick 82
2016 DL - I like our DT's...hopefully we can sign Fairley again in 2017(Glad we hit on him). We need to use a high draft on DE or sign a starter via F.A. Kikaha is still developing. We're just doing patchwork right now. Onyemata might be the answer in a few seasons...still very raw.
DE - Cameron Jordan - Drafted 2011 pick 24
DE - Paul Kruger - FA
DE - Kasim Edebali - UDFA
DE - Darryl Tapp - FA
DE - Obum Gwachum - FA
DE - David Onyemata - Drafted 2016 pick 120
DT - Sheldon Rankins - Drafted 2016 pick 13
DT - Nick Fairley - FA
DT - Tyeler Davison - Drafted 2015 pick 154
DT - John Jenkins - Drafted 2013 pick 82
2009 LB
LB - Jonathan Vilma - Traded
LB - Scott Fujita - FA
LB - Scott Shanle - Traded
LB - Marvin Mitchell - Drafted 2007 pick 220
2011 LB
LB - Jonathan Vilma - Traded
LB - Jo-Lonn Dunbar - UDFA
LB - Scott Shanle - Traded
LB - Jonathan Casillas - FA
2013 LB
LB - Junior Galette - UDFA
LB - Parys Haralson - Traded
LB - Curtis Lofton - FA
LB - David Hawthorne - FA
2016 LB - Can't really count on Ellerbe. Same as DE...need 1 guy with high draft pick or starter via F.A. Robertson was a steal.
LB - Dannell Ellerbe - Traded
LB - Stephone Anthony - Drafted 2015 pick 31
LB - Craig Robertson - FA
LB - James Laurinaitis - FA
LB - Nate Stupar - FA
LB - Michael Mauti - FA
2009 DB
CB - Jabari Greer - FA
CB - Tracy Porter - Drafted 2008 pick 40
CB - Mike McKenzie - Traded
CB - Randall Gay - FA
CB - Malcolm Jenkins - Drafted 2009 pick 14
S - Darren Sharper - FA
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
2011 DB
CB - Jabari Greer - FA
CB - Tracy Porter - Drafted 2008 pick 40
CB - Patrick Robinson - Drafted 2010 pick 32
S - Malcolm Jenkins - Drafted 2009 pick 14
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
S - Isa Abdul-Qudus - UDFA
2013 DB
CB - Jabari Greer - FA
CB - Keenan Lewis - FA
CB - Corey White - Drafted 2012 pick 162
S - Malcolm Jenkins - Drafted 2009 pick 14
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
S - Kenny Vaccaro - Drafted 2013 pick 15
S - Rafael Bush - FA
2016 DB - I actually like this group a lot a year from now. PJ Williams looked good against a respectable passing game. I like him and Delvin as starters. We'll probably cut Byrd next year and use the money saved to buy a F.A. Vaccaro is in a contract year. Hopefully we get him for a good price.
CB - Delvin Breaux - FA
CB - PJ Williams - Drafted 2015 pick 78
CB - DeVante Harris - UDFA
CB - Sterling Moore - FA
CB - Ken Crawley - UDFA
S - Jairus Byrd - FA
S - Kenny Vaccaro - Drafted 2013 pick 15
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
S - Vonn Bell - Drafted 2016 pick 61
Our offense will continue to roll in 2017 if we handle the right side of our OL properly. If Evans & Strief are done, then we need to hit on their replacements.
The defense looks decent on paper when everybody is healthy. Combine that with the big additions we are sure to make on defense and OL, 2017 looks very good imo.
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 8:42 am
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Posted on 9/15/16 at 8:47 pm to GMoney2600
Based on their track record how confident are you that the cap money will be spent wisely or that 30% of our draft picks will even be on the team?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 8:52 pm to BigPerm30
Our last 2 drafts have been respectable & this years F.A. crop has been pretty good. I'm hoping for the best.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 8:53 pm to GMoney2600
2009 DB
CB - Jabari Greer - FA
CB - Tracy Porter - Drafted 2008 pick 40
CB - Mike McKenzie - Traded
CB - Randall Gay - FA
CB - Malcolm Jenkins - Drafted 2009 pick 14
S - Darren Sharper - FA
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
Has there been a better secondary for us?
CB - Jabari Greer - FA
CB - Tracy Porter - Drafted 2008 pick 40
CB - Mike McKenzie - Traded
CB - Randall Gay - FA
CB - Malcolm Jenkins - Drafted 2009 pick 14
S - Darren Sharper - FA
S - Roman Harper - Drafted 2006 pick 43
Has there been a better secondary for us?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:17 pm to goatmilker
Nope and Porter was super underrated.
I hated that we let him walk (likely because GW wanted Robinson to start which was a mistake).
I wouldn't truly count McKinzie as part of the core group since he only balled out one game (which was incredible) and got cut not long after.
And I think Gay got hurt early also.
But yeah overall they just worked so well together.
I hated that we let him walk (likely because GW wanted Robinson to start which was a mistake).
I wouldn't truly count McKinzie as part of the core group since he only balled out one game (which was incredible) and got cut not long after.
And I think Gay got hurt early also.
But yeah overall they just worked so well together.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:24 pm to GMoney2600
Solid thread... Good info here
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:39 pm to GMoney2600
Impressive post. Cheers and thanks.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:00 pm to bonethug0108
Crazy to think Cam is on his 4th DC and the Saints on their 5th under Payton when Cam wasn't even here the first 5 years.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:10 pm to bonethug0108
One thing I'm a little worried about his losing Vaccaro. That guy has turned into a stud I say we pay top dollar if we have to
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:13 pm to breauxmosexual
He's locked in next year and we'll likely rework his deal next offseason if he's figured to be a part of long term plan
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:29 pm to Chad504boy
Yup. And he should be.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:53 pm to GMoney2600
quote:
2017 looks to complete the rebuild
I'd hope so. 2017 is "deep playoff run or blow it up territory"
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:56 pm to bonethug0108
OT- my dad is a big Tracy Porter fan and whenever we reminisce about his super bowl interception I always think about this.... think about the players involved:
Manning - father has serious New Orleans roots
Reggie Wayne - New Orleans native, went to Ehret
Porter - born and raised in Port Allen
Coincidence??
Bonus:
Brett Favre (remember the guy who also threw it to porter to give us a chance to win the NFC?) - his favorite childhood team was also the saints
Alright, I'll put my foil away
Manning - father has serious New Orleans roots
Reggie Wayne - New Orleans native, went to Ehret
Porter - born and raised in Port Allen
Coincidence??
Bonus:
Brett Favre (remember the guy who also threw it to porter to give us a chance to win the NFC?) - his favorite childhood team was also the saints
Alright, I'll put my foil away
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:54 pm to Mr. Hangover
I thought Porter was from Port Allen.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:57 pm to Sparkplug#1
You're right, dno what I was thinking
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:16 am to Mr. Hangover
No biggie. I don't know much about football schemes and such, that's why I come here. I just remember that small fact.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:28 am to GMoney2600
Great post breaux. We have a lot of young talent that will get better as this season goes on. 2 or 3 free agent splashes should make us a superbowl team.
Yeah we've missed on some free agent signings. But I think we've seen a commitment from Sean and Mickey to be smarter during free agency. I think we added some nice pieces in areas of need without spending a lot of money already (Fairley, Robertson, Kruger)
And our offense is seriously electric. Would not be surprised if Drew got his yardage record back this year.
Lots of exciting things to build on and we are very close
Yeah we've missed on some free agent signings. But I think we've seen a commitment from Sean and Mickey to be smarter during free agency. I think we added some nice pieces in areas of need without spending a lot of money already (Fairley, Robertson, Kruger)
And our offense is seriously electric. Would not be surprised if Drew got his yardage record back this year.
Lots of exciting things to build on and we are very close
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:28 am to GMoney2600
We are actually in year 2 of the rebuild. Next year we should winning.
We need to address the offensive line, add one more defensive line player, and add LBs. we have the rest of the pieces to make a run.
We need to address the offensive line, add one more defensive line player, and add LBs. we have the rest of the pieces to make a run.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:38 am to GMoney2600
Who's Tim Crawley?
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