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re: 2016 NFL Mock Draft Database (Updated 4/7/16)

Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:05 pm to
I will do my final one the morning of the draft so this will change again....

1. Los Angeles Rams: Jared Goff, QB, Cal
2. Philadelphia Eagles: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
3. San Diego Chargers: Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
4. Dallas Cowboys: Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State
6. Baltimore Ravens: DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
7. San Francisco 49ers: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
8. Cleveland Browns: Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
10. New York Giants: Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
11. Chicago Bears: Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
12. New Orleans Saints: Noah Spence, OLB, Eastern Kentucky
13. Miami Dolphins: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
14. Oakland Raiders: Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State
15. Tennessee Titans: Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio St.
16. Detroit Lions: Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
17. Atlanta Falcons: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
18. Indianapolis Colts: Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia
19. Buffalo Bills: Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
20. New York Jets: Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
21. Washington: Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
22. Houston Texans: Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama
23. Minnesota Vikings: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
24. Cincinnati Bengals: Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
25. Pittsburgh Steelers: Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
26. Seattle Seahawks: Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
27. Green Bay Packers: A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama
28. Kansas City Chiefs: Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame
29. Arizona Cardinals: Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
30. Carolina Panthers: William Jackson III, CB, Houston
31. Denver Broncos: Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State


2nd Round: Su'a Cravens, LB/S, USC
3rd Round: Christian Westerman, G, Arizona State
4th Round: Sheldon Day, DT, Notre Dame
5th Round: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida
7th Round: Landon Turner, G, North Carolina


UDFA:

Ross Martin, K, Duke
Darius Powe, WR, California
Nick Vigil, ILB, Utah State
Sean Davis, FS/CB, Maryland
Zeth Ramsay, OT, Mesa State
Chris Swain, FB, Navy
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted by PurpleDrank18
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:10 pm to
PurpleDrank18 v1.0 :

1. Rams: Jared Goff, QB, Cal
2. Eagles: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
3. Chargers: DeForest Buckner, DL, Oregon
4. Cowboys: Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida State
5. Jaguars: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
6. Ravens: Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
7. 49ers: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
8. Browns: Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
9. Bucs: Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
10. Giants: Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
11. Bears: Leonard Floyd, EDGE, Georgia
12. Saints: Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
13. Miami: Zeke Elliot, RB, Ohio State
14. Raiders: William Jackson III, CB, Houston
15. Titans: Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana
16. Lions: Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
17. Falcons: Darron Lee, OLB, Ohio State
18. Colts: Noah Spence, EDGE, Eastern Kentucky via Ohio State
19. Bills: Kevin Dodd, EDGE, Clemson
20. Jets: Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State
21. Redskins: Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama
22. Texans: Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
23. Vikings: Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
24. Bengals: Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
25. Steelers: Mackenzie Alexander, CB, Clemson
26. Seahawks: Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
27. Packers: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
28. Chiefs: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
29. Cardinals: Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama
30. Panthers: Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
31. Broncos: Robert Nkemdiche, DL, Ole Miss
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:55 pm to
Why lynch?
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:52 am to
I'll try to keep this brief since I'm on mobile. But I'll go into further explanation if you want.

I'll preface this by saying I obviously have no inside source, nor am I a professional. I'm left with to my own devices - knowledge, videos, news, reports.

Based on what we know, the Saints are clearly doing their homework on not only Lynch, but the QB position in general as there have been 5 QB visits (ranks in the tops among all positions). Lynch himself has met with us at least 3 different times, one of which was a personal visit in NO. Teams have a limited number of personal visits, so to me, the whole smokescreen angle sounds less viable as I don't think a team would waste a PV on something like that. Attending a Pro Day and meeting then, possibly could see it there. But a PV I find that to be less legitimate.

Secondly I personally think Lynch has one of, if not the highest ceiling among all QBs in this draft. However as I've stated many times I feel to reach his full potential I think he's going to need to sit for at least a year, possibly two to actually reach that full potential physically, but mostly mentally. We can afford him that opportunity. Which leaves me into my next point..

Brees. He's 37. Negotiations have sputtered. Father time is undefeated. As much as we hate to think about it the Brees-Era is near an end, at least IMO. I think he's got 2, possibly 3 years, if we/he is lucky, of above average QB play(perfect time table for Lynch). No athlete has ever, ever been able to escape the grasps of time. And as much as we think of Brees as out knight in shining armor, he's not immune to this.

I do actually think our Super Bowl window is shut(although speeded up greatly by one Roger 'frickhead' Goodell). Our defense is so bad, I really don't think we have enough years to rebuild it, at least through the draft with our current mid teen positions, in time before Brees is unable to carry a decent defense like he did in '09. I don't think ANY rookie, regardless of position that we could take at 12 could have a big enough IMMEDIATE impact to remedy this either. Hence I and the FO are thinking of the future. It's not often you're out in a position to take a QB with the traits Lynch possesses, WHILE ALSO being afforded to ease him in under a HoF QB (Which he needs). I think this is a very good opportunity to secure ourselves for the post-Brees Era. Mind you there's still plenty of defensive talent to be had in Round 2 and after. It's not like we're going to miss out on that side of the ball completely.

As I said in the beginning I have absolutely no clue what the FO is actually thinking, nor does anybody else who's not actually in it. But this is just something I've gathered and belive from the information that's been presented in front of me.
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:09 am to
All i just read is blah blah blah I've lost my mind blah blah blah.

Look Lynch is going to be gone before we pick anyway but anyway they brought in 3 different QBs last year also. We always do all of our homework on every player that will go around where we are picking. They have met with him so many times because I believe they are trying to do 2 things. One, Give themselves a leg up in the Brees negotiations to make him hurry and sign. Two, to make other teams believe they need to trade up with us or we are going to take Lynch. But I'm sorry there is no way we spent a 3rd round last year on a QB then going to waste a 1st on one this year before he has had time to prove himself. Besides the fact that it would basically be throwing away this season if we did so. Come on man wake up and smell the cleats. QB at 12 is not happening.

quote:

@MikeTriplett: RT @JeffDuncan_: Riddick on if Saints would draft a QB at 12: "I would be shocked. I would fall out of my chair if they did not take a defensive player"


Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:44 am to
Also, very important to do diligent profiles on all qb's in these drafts if we are weighing veteran replacement options in years 4 and 5 from here on out.
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Also, very important to do diligent profiles on all qb's in these drafts if we are weighing veteran replacement options in years 4 and 5 from here on out.


good point.
Posted by PurpleDrank18
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 5:06 pm to
Ok, well you can continue to believe that, that's your opinion. I feel I have a well thought out opinion. Will it come true, who the hell knows. But it's not asinine.

If you honestly believe Grayson is the answer I feel sorry for you. It was and will be a wasted 3rd round pick. This is the same guy who couldn't even see the field when Brees was out, because he couldn't overcome the massive hurdle that is Luke McCown. Luke Frickign McCown.


Also at this:

quote:

Besides the fact that it would basically be throwing away this season if we did so


You have very, very flawed thinking if you think ONE rookie regardless of round is going to make or break this season. Have you forgot that we have 5 other picks? ANd that this is one of the deepest DT classes ever. And that that is one of our biggest needs. And that we can get a solid guy in rounds 2, 3, 4 or 5.Not to mention in our range we're not even in the running for one of the few prospects that even has close to the potential to be a gamechanger from Day 1.

Look as I said before, this is just my opinion from what we've been presented. Just because you disagree doesn't make me immediately wrong. Could I be? Absolutely. But so could you about not only this but Spence too. We don't know for certain.

P.S. to Chad. Players, especially QBs can and will change A LOT mentally and physically in the span of 4 to 5 years. For arguments sake, if what you're saying is actually the case, they could be looking at a completely different person and player than the one they originally met with 5 years ago. Players grow and change.


ETA: in regards to your quoted tweet...Riddick sucks. Have you seen his recent mock? I would take anything he says about the Saints with a grain of salt. Especially considering he's not even an insider with the team.
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 5:08 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

If you honestly believe Grayson is the answer I feel sorry for you. It was and will be a wasted 3rd round pick. This is the same guy who couldn't even see the field when Brees was out, because he couldn't overcome the massive hurdle that is Luke McCown. Luke Frickign McCown.


He(or any young QB) wasn't going to learn the saints offense in just a few months. Mccown actually played pretty damn well.

Its absurd to expect a young QB in a completely new offense to beat out an established vet.

Let's see how GG looks over the summer before damning him
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 11:21 pm to
There have been plenty of rookies who stasted or played from day one. For better or worse. Don't give me that. They didn't even feel comfortable enough to give him some real game reps over a 34 year old journey man backup. I suppose it isn't too fair to 100% dismiss him, but it definitely doesn't bode well.

Plus Lynch >>>> Grayson as a prospect, especially physically.
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 11:23 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 12:56 am to
It was early in the season against a division opponent on the road. You're going to go with the vet who's been in the system for 2+ years and has seen a decade if NFL defenses.

If its week 14-15 or mccown stunk it up in that game yeah I maybe could see that but it wasn't the case.



Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 1:15 am to
Be that as it may, I just don't trust the future of this franchise to Grayson. I think he can be a very solid backup in the NFL and have a nice, long, fruitful career that way. But I just can't ever see him leading a SB winning team. Even from what I saw of him at Colorado State. If I'm wrong frick it, idc because that means we won the SB.
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:19 am to
Ok Here's my final

1. Los Angeles Rams: Jared Goff, QB, Cal
2. Philadelphia Eagles: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
3. San Diego Chargers: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
4. Dallas Cowboys: Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State
5. Tennessee Titans (Trade With Jags): Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
6. Baltimore Ravens: Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
7. San Francisco 49ers: DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
8. Miami Dolphins (Trade With Browns): Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
10. New York Giants: Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia
11. Chicago Bears: Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
12. New Orleans Saints: Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
13. Cleveland Browns (Trade With Dolphins): Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
14. Oakland Raiders: William Jackson III, CB, Houston
15. Jacksonville Jaguars(Trade With Titans):Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
16. Detroit Lions: Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio St.
17. Atlanta Falcons: Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State
18. Indianapolis Colts: Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama
19. Buffalo Bills: Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama
20. New York Jets: Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
21. Washington Redskins: A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama
22. Houston Texans: Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
23. Minnesota Vikings: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
24. Cincinnati Bengals: Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame
25. Pittsburgh Steelers: Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
26. Seattle Seahawks: Germain Ifedi, OT, Texas A&M
27. Green Bay Packers: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
28. Kansas City Chiefs: Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
29. Arizona Cardinals: Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Ole Miss
30. Carolina Panthers: Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
31. Denver Broncos: Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State


2nd Round: Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
3rd Round: Christian Westerman, G, Arizona State
4th Round: Kevin Byard, S, Middle Tennessee
5th Round: Rees Odhiambo, G, Boise State
7th Round: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida


UDFA:

Ross Martin, K, Duke
Darius Powe, WR, California
Nick Vigil, ILB, Utah State
Sean Davis, FS/CB, Maryland
Zeth Ramsay, OT, Mesa State
Chris Swain, FB, Navy
Will Parks, S, Arizona
Lamar Louis, RB/FB, LSU
Posted by ConnorJB34
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:06 pm to
no one cares about mock drafts they are never even close to being right. in every sport.
Posted by Spoke1984
ATX
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:40 pm to
my two cents:
if we dont trade up to get buckner or ramsey(ITO),
and hargreaves or jack(ITO) are not there at 12,
i think we should trade back and acquire picks. 1st spence, apple, jackson(ITO)
I like bullard in the 2nd maybe thomas if we get an extra pick
dbo in the 3rd maybe miller if the extra pick is there
westerman in the 4th (if he lasts lol)
aguyao in the 5th
duke williams in the 7th

this is probably best case scenario,
so maybe, hopeful two cents.

This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:05 am to
Well it was screwed up because of all the crazy trades but I still did ok.



This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 9:20 am
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 6:12 pm to
I'm gonna say our pick in round 2 may be Whitehair instead of Spence since Whitehair fell out of the 1st
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