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re: Zach Lowe Western Conference Power Rankings

Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:21 pm to
When the Monroe to Portland rumors popped up there was a lot of support behind Ryno for Batum. There just aren't many viable targets.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:33 pm to
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I'd much rather watch the young and pesky Bucks who play great team basketball and are growing up nightly before your eyes than my own damn team who has the best or 2nd best player on the planet. We need a coaching and style change - we should be running and gunning and passing around Holiday, AD23, and Anderson. Basically fire Monty and hire George Karl and this team would be so much more fun.
It's fun to watch a young team with a bright future and no pressure or expectations of making the playoffs. Surpassing low expectations feels great.

But when your team makes moves and is now expected to reach the playoffs, the pressure is on and losses become frustrating.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:44 pm to
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The expectations were to improve from a 20-30 win team, to a playoff team in this conference. They've put themselves in position to do that.


Which is what he says. He also says there were other ways to achieve a .500 record without capping themselves out for years or being thin and unbalanced.. Which is true.

And he's right about the Evans/Lopez swap being questionable. They sent out a very good rim protector (anchors a league average and top 5 defense last year and this year) because he couldn't hard hedge. Spent a year in the wilderness at C, then sent out a 1st for a better, but not that much better, and more expensive rim protector. And the defense still sucks. That move has not aged well.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:59 pm to
This team will be very likely to be well above .500 by the end of january.

Where does it say lopez is that highly regarded? Could you link?

I mean the blazers have Matthews/Batum/Aldridge(who's a very good post defender)

How much is it due to lopez or the talent around him?
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 6:00 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71992 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:01 pm to
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Lowe watches every game. He comments on them nightly.


Yep. Actually, he may talk about the Pels more than any other team in the league. And he's not bias, he's always pretty objective. Truth hurts sometimes, though.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:14 pm to
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Which is what he says. He also says there were other ways to achieve a .500 record without capping themselves out for years or being thin and unbalanced.. Which is true.
I just don't believe they've capped themselves out. The Nets are in cap disaster, way worse situation than us, and Simmons came up with a reasonable way to get them out of that situation in 2 or 3 moves.

We could easily move pieces around and get real value in return, not just dump salary like Brooklyn. Gordon's the only "main" guy with no real value.

Anderson, Holiday, Tyreke, and Asik all have real value if they wanted to move them. With that in mind, I think Jrue's the only guy who'll more than likely be here long term.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:32 pm to
That's fair. And I agree that it's not an unsalvageable cap sheet.

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I think Jrue's the only guy who'll more than likely be here long term


Yep. And I love Anderson. But they want Davis as a 4. Anderson doesn't fit here as a 5. I see a move this summer happening,
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:44 pm to
I agree.

Btw, I definitely agree that there's a lot to question about this front office and team. Don't want to come off too homerish. I just get tired of everything I read about this team from national guys being doom and gloom, and usually really condescending(not from Lowe).

We are over .500 in this insane conference, despite our faults. I'm sure if they tried hard enough they could find something positive to say about us.
Posted by NOLAbaby
CumTown
Member since Sep 2013
1758 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Lowe knows more about the Pels then this whole board combined.

While I understand your point, I doubt that. He's an NBA junkie, but his word is not gold to me. He's a nitpicker and a lot of his writing targets fastidious inefficiencies. Like LeBron's Heat or any title team for that matter never had any weaknesses? No team's ever sustainably as perfect as Lowe wants them to be.

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I'm sure if they tried hard enough they could find something positive to say about us.

Such as Davis leading the league in PER, Value Added, and Estimated Wins Added... Or Luke Babbitt being a boss dog from downtown (currently 3rd in 3P% behind Korver and Rasual Butler)
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20002 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:15 pm to
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When the Monroe to Portland rumors popped up there was a lot of support behind Ryno for Batum. There just aren't many viable targets.



You have a good memory and are consistent.
Posted by NOLAbaby
CumTown
Member since Sep 2013
1758 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:11 pm to
Taken from the TWolves section of that article...
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Zach LaVine has had bursts of exciting competence amid the troubles anyone would experience playing point guard at 19 on an awful team.

No one would have dared to say that same phrase about Austin Rivers in his rookie year, when he was the youngest player in the league. In the two Twolves games I've watched, Lavine looked really unready for the NBA and very much like our boy Rivers did as a rookie- inconsistent and unpredictable. Lowe's a spin doctor and it bums me out.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:16 pm to
Lowe is more of an eternal optimist. He has trouble really ripping on people/teams. Haralabob was trashing Monty and Lowe was kind of standing up for him on a podcast earlier in the year.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:14 am to
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Where does it say lopez is that highly regarded? Could you link? 


Nylon Calculus Rim Protection Stats

I'm not saying Lopez is some defensive beast. But he's been very good at protecting the rim in Portland on 2 good defenses. That is important.

The Blazers have a good wing defender in Batum that NO doesn't, but Davis and Holiday are better than Aldridge and Matthews. I don't think their talent is that much better.

To me, Lopez's success is a damming indictment of Monty's scheme. Lopez looked like a clown often in NO. Not so much in Portland
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 8:15 am
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:32 am to
If you have Asik, Davis and Holiday and your D is terrible, you're a bad defensive coach.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34890 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:35 am to
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If you have Asik, Davis and Holiday and your D is terrible, you're a bad defensive coach.



This. Sometimes it really is that simple. There's no excuse for us to be playing this poorly on defense.
Posted by whoknows1390
nola
Member since Jul 2014
1672 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:52 am to
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If you have Asik, Davis and Holiday and your D is terrible, you're a bad defensive coach


I agree with this. Most of these guys have been in Monty's system for atleast 2 years now. there are still tons of blown rotations. After this long you have to put that on Monty.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27872 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:09 pm to
We still have Ryan Anderson, who is as lost on defense as anyone in the league.
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