only lebron has ever played the "years don't matter" game. maybe....maybe durant is on that path.

most guys take the security. last summer, all the buzz was about players taking super short deal to hit the spike. really didn't happen at all.

and the raises matter when paired with extra years current teams can offer. as a 9 year vet, conley got 5/$153. best he could get to leave would have been 4/$113. $40M is a hell of an enticement.

i would imagine they will fix extensions so they can actually be useful and maybe sweeten the hometown pot a bit more (extra year/higher raises/re-signs can get higher % of cap/etc). but owners aren't removing max contracts and players aren't agreeing to a franchise tag

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Posted by TigerinATL

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Posted on 10/21/16 at 8:15 am to corndeaux

Woj has an update with a few more details.

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Among the principles in agreement, the NBA’s Basketball Related Income (BRI) split will remain unchanged in a new agreement, league sources said. The players receive a share in the range of 49 to 51 percent of the current BRI.

The NBA will raise rookie-scale, veteran minimum and free-agent exception deals in the new agreement, league sources said. Rises in those salaries could come in the 50 percent range over current numbers, sources said.

The NBA will keep its “one-and-done” rule with college basketball, retreating on its original desire to make college players wait two years after high school graduation to become eligible for the NBA draft, league sources said. Two-way contracts between the NBA and NBA Development League will offer teams the chance to add 16th and 17th roster spots, and pay players differently based upon their assignments in either the league’s minor league or as part of the parent team, league sources said.

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Posted on 10/21/16 at 8:16 am to corndeaux

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only lebron has ever played the "years don't matter" game.

Beck and Lowe were talking about how they're expecting teams to be given more advantage over keeping their won players that the current 1 extra year/3% extra raises gap because it isn't enough. If true then hopefully it's a big enough difference to keep AD. Maybe they go 6 years with 10% raises instead of 5/7.5.

I just ran the math with a 30% max starting at $30.5 million:

4 years 4.5% = $130.5 total averaging $32.6 per year

5 years 7.5% raises = $177 total averaging $35.4 per year

6 years 10% raises = $235 total averaging $39.2 per year.

So the 6 year plan is a 20% difference per year vs. the 4 year competing offer. The current 5 year plan is only an 8.5% difference. The down side is if enough teams miss on these kind of deals we could be repeating the cycle that lead to the 2011 lockout. AD would be making $49 million in the last year of the 6 year deal

That probably works for the Pels with AD, but can you imagine say the TWolves having paid that much to keep Kevin Love around? Also I wonder if that kind of spending power would have made Cleveland reluctant to trade for Love. That'd be a hell of a tax bill on top of a staggering salary.

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Posted on 10/21/16 at 9:10 am to TigerinATL

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Beck and Lowe were talking about how they're expecting teams to be given more advantage over keeping their won players that the current 1 extra year/3% extra raises gap because it isn't enough. If true then hopefully it's a big enough difference to keep AD. Maybe they go 6 years with 10% raises instead of 5/7.5. I just ran the math with a 30% max starting at $30.5 million: 4 years 4.5% = $130.5 total averaging $32.6 per year 5 years 7.5% raises = $177 total averaging $35.4 per year 6 years 10% raises = $235 total averaging $39.2 per year. So the 6 year plan is a 20% difference per year vs. the 4 year competing offer. The current 5 year plan is only an 8.5% difference. The down side is if enough teams miss on these kind of deals we could be repeating the cycle that lead to the 2011 lockout. AD would be making $49 million in the last year of the 6 year deal That probably works for the Pels with AD, but can you imagine say the TWolves having paid that much to keep Kevin Love around? Also I wonder if that kind of spending power would have made Cleveland reluctant to trade for Love. That'd be a hell of a tax bill on top of a staggering salary.

I doubt they want to go longer with the contracts given that this is what caused so many issues previously.

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Posted on 10/21/16 at 9:19 am to NOSHAU

It's not so much length but incentive. Higher raises which means more money they make by staying with their current team. I think deal lengths now are okay.

You also need to up the MLE to meet current market conditions so that means better role players can be signed.

If they are going to have two way contracts I wonder if that means the draft will be extended another round or maybe more compensatory selections so teams can have talent to develop on the back end.

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Posted by NOSHAU

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Posted on 10/21/16 at 9:39 am to BallHawk

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It's not so much length but incentive. Higher raises which means more money they make by staying with their current team. I think deal lengths now are okay. You also need to up the MLE to meet current market conditions so that means better role players can be signed. If they are going to have two way contracts I wonder if that means the draft will be extended another round or maybe more compensatory selections so teams can have talent to develop on the back end.

Agreed on the length/incentives and MLE. I cannot see the draft being extended, but would not see an issue with a 3rd round if development is the intent.

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