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re: Pelicans trade for Demarcus Cousins! (And Omri Casspi)

Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Markie812
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

Technically, everything has a 50/50 chance.


This really is the dumbest thing I have ever heard on this board and that is saying a lot.
Posted by Peregrine Laziosi
Laplace
Member since Nov 2016
627 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

FWIW, @chadfordinsider reported ahead of the 2016 draft that Kings GM Vlade Divac "loves" Buddy Hield. Pels took him two spots before Kings.


We must be getting Ben McLemore as well

Member AD was hanging out over the summer with him

They friends. Pelicans stacked. League frickkkeedd
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5736 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:35 pm to
That actually wouldn't be a bad pickup (McLemore) - not sure how much our D would suffer but our O should be much much improved
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52604 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:36 pm to
Get boogie fire gentry hire calipari. CHAMPIONSHIPS
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:40 pm to
The reason they are semi comfortable trading Buddy is because they have two SGs they like. Would be no need for McLemore
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7233 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:40 pm to
Only reason to trade for Boogie is to bank on him being a less volatile teammate as he hits his late 20s. In his current state, DO NOT WANT.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

The reason they are semi comfortable trading Buddy is because they have two SGs they like. Would be no need for McLemore


This isn't builshit? The Pels have an actual shot at Cousins?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21008 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:41 pm to
Apparently its 50/50
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61483 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

This isn't builshit? The Pels have an actual shot at Cousins?


According to Woj the Kings don't want to pay Cousins. Does anyone think Cousins will stay with the Kings long term if they don't give him the extra money the new CBA allows them to? They may wait until the offseason, but they are at the point where you trade a star that is going to leave anyway. He's only got 1 year left after this one.

The reason to do the deal now instead of waiting until the offseason is like MM has pointed out, make the Kings own pick as high as possible. Get the same deal this offseason with your pick and the Pels pick at 10 or higher, or get the deal now and maybe have the Kings pick be a top 3 pick. It also would let them see Tyreke at PG. Resign Tyreke, draft Jackson

Tyreke
Buddy
Jackson
Skal
Koufos

That's not terrible for year 1 of a rebuild with a new arena to fill. 2 young exciting talents and the return of Tyreke.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:47 pm to
The Pels can put the best pacakage together for Cousins, Lopez, and Drummond. There aren't huge markets for any. It just comes down to whether those teams pull the trigger or don't. My bet is Sacto and Det choose not to move them. But who knows

Point is, Pels are willing to give up a bunch of picks and the guy who was their 2016 pick, showing unequivocally that they have no desire to build slowly. But if it is for a player that is worth it, so be it I guess. But best case scenario is that Jrue, AD, and Boogie are making 90-95 mil in two years. Back to being a top heavy team that better not get injured
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:47 pm to
quote:


According to Woj the Kings don't want to pay Cousins. Does anyone think Cousins will stay with the Kings long term if they don't give him the extra money the new CBA allows them to? They may wait until the offseason, but they are at the point where you trade a star that is going to leave anyway. He's only got 1 year left after this one.


For those looking at the 5/210 number, that's not the number the acquiring team can offer apparently according to Yahoo!
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:49 pm to
It would be closer to 5/170-175
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Point is, Pels are willing to give up a bunch of picks and the guy who was their 2016 pick, showing unequivocally that they have no desire to build slowly. But if it is for a player that is worth it, so be it I guess. But best case scenario is that Jrue, AD, and Boogie are making 90-95 mil in two years. Back to being a top heavy team that better not get injured


If I'm stuck with Demps, I'd rather him bet the farm on a legit superstar than go after more Jrue Holidays and Tyreke Evans.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:51 pm to
So, is it happening???

PLEASE GET BOOGIE!
Posted by Lilpickles
Member since Nov 2016
1701 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61483 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:52 pm to
Yeah, the new DPE can only come from the team that drafted you unless you got traded while on your rookie deal. So if the Kings aren't going to give Cousins the DPE then they are in the same boat that we've previously been in for star FAs, you have a meaningless extra year and only a slightly higher number for the annual raises. So there isn't much financial incentive to stay with the Kings, and not only are they not a winning team, their relationship has been rocky and chaotic at best. You have to think Cousins is out the door without being paid to stay.
Posted by SuperSoakher
Member since Jun 2012
4585 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:53 pm to
But what happens when AD inevitably gets hurt? Then we're just a worse Sacramento? That's a gamble you take
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21008 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:56 pm to
GTFO with this shite son. Only flapping allowed in this thread.
Posted by BayouBengal0505
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
2686 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:56 pm to
That's what happens to any team when their best player gets hurt. Not many teams can win consistently with their primary players hurt.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:57 pm to
When AD gets hurt, Boogie goes all RAAAAWWWRRR and kills everyone in the West.
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