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re: Pelicans 97 @ Nuggets 117 / Final / Official Game Thread
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:08 am to chesty
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:08 am to chesty
The defense is still infuriating. The players were poor across the board and it just wasn't their night, shite happens on road trips. But I'm still baffled by what they try to do.
Anderson hard hedging is still dumb.
They don't have the personnel to switch every screen, especially v a team like Denver. Yet they do it anyway,
They have to scale back when Asik is out. Have Davis be more conservative in his approach and play as a rim protecting 5. I get wanting to protect Davis, but the other bigs offer nothing there. It's open season on the rim once Davis gets outside of the paint.
And, good Lord, the next time there is an all bench unit will be too soon. Poor, poor Anderson.
I didn't see the Sacramento game, so maybe it worked then. But what I saw last night was same old, same old.
Anderson hard hedging is still dumb.
They don't have the personnel to switch every screen, especially v a team like Denver. Yet they do it anyway,
They have to scale back when Asik is out. Have Davis be more conservative in his approach and play as a rim protecting 5. I get wanting to protect Davis, but the other bigs offer nothing there. It's open season on the rim once Davis gets outside of the paint.
And, good Lord, the next time there is an all bench unit will be too soon. Poor, poor Anderson.
I didn't see the Sacramento game, so maybe it worked then. But what I saw last night was same old, same old.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:22 am to corndeaux
Yeah I wasn't happy at all.
I liked how withey played though. He had some nice moments.
Ryno has been inconsistent. I'm not sure why though.
We miss asik so much it isn't funny. He would've really helped with faried.
Monty's rotations were bad too imo. We were in striking distance and next thing you know it's a 20 point hole.
Aggravating night for sure.
I liked how withey played though. He had some nice moments.
Ryno has been inconsistent. I'm not sure why though.
We miss asik so much it isn't funny. He would've really helped with faried.
Monty's rotations were bad too imo. We were in striking distance and next thing you know it's a 20 point hole.
Aggravating night for sure.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 9:29 am to corndeaux
Emptying the bench hasn't worked all year. Once. Yet for some reason as the season is progressing, we are seeing it MORE. It's literally a disaster. Rivers is being asked to do too much again, part of which he is incapable of doing / part of which is due to him being the only other person on the floor outside Anderson worth giving two craps about for the other team. So hey, key on Anderson, sag on Rivers, stay home on the wings that run 12 sec 40s with the ball in their hands, and it's game over. But surely such an inept offensive unit has defensive upside right? NO, they're even worse on that side of the ball.
HEYO the hard hedge is coming back. That early season display where we thought ourselves cured of this malady? Pfft, Monty just needed to dumb down the screens until our guys learned his super duper defensive system that's a bonafide top 28 smash hit!
Someone really, REALLY needs to develop some form of advanced metric for coaching. Please...
It's way too early in the year for #hirekarl but seriously #hirekarl. We are literally going to waste every year of ADs tenure here that Monty is at the helm. Defend him if you want with your "no credit when it's good" garbage.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:38 am to ShamelessPel
The +/- on this game are really interesting (LINK ). Its weird to see a distribution like these. Anderson played 27 minutes and had a -29. Rivers played 21 minutes and had a -24. On the Nuggets side, McGee played 19 minutes and had a +22. Normally the bench players don't have that high of a swing. But none of the starters on either team played that many minutes. Do you think there was fatigue or maybe the altitude? The Pelicans had a couple of days rest..
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:40 am to brmark70816
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. Do you think there was fatigue or maybe the altitude? The Pelicans had a couple of days rest..
Both
Remember,Pels just had a road back to back.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:50 am to ShamelessPel
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But surely such an inept offensive unit has defensive upside right?
This is what blows my mind. Lots of guys that can stand and shoot, but not much else. And of course they don't play with the teams best creators, when that one skill becomes most valuable
Starting the guards is fine, but at least one needs to come out early to stabilize the bench. At this point, I would bring Holiday back earlier for his defense. You can hide Babbitt as much as possible with Holiday/Rivers v 2nd units.
ETA: I might even pull Davis out before Asik and bring him back to help anchor the 2s.
Aminu is not good, but they really needed to sign a guy to replicate what he brought defensively (some competence) and athletically off the bench for 15 mpg if Monty doesn't want to stagger wing minutes. Instead Salmons, Babbitt, and Miller
It's like an overreaction to the no shooting lineups we got last year.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:22 am to LosLobos111
We are on the verge of having a really good team ... I can feel it. Hopefully we can put everything together within the next couple of months.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 11:22 am
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:26 pm to Diddles
With monty, we are an above >.500 team if we're all healthy. I give him the benefit of the doubt because Asik is probably the 2nd most important piece to this team's defense.
With Asik out, I put us at a .500 team. Our 4th quarter defense has been lacking.
With Asik out, I put us at a .500 team. Our 4th quarter defense has been lacking.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 3:18 pm to htran90
My Nuggets dominated just as I predicted
Posted on 11/22/14 at 5:50 pm to corndeaux
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Aminu is not good, but...Salmons, Babbitt, and Miller
This is the bottom line. Shoving Aminu out of the door was a terrible decision without a single NBA player to replace him. Aminu is not very good, but we replaced him with incompetent.
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