re: Outside the top 4 in the draft who are the top 5 guys you want for this team?

I agree, I guess I look at both of their ceiling and like Luwawu more and feel that hes worth that chance.

Also for people who haven't checked him out look at his breakdown and tell me this isn't what we need.


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That's not that good in euro ball, no?

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A 104 ORtg's not great either, but it's decent. To be a 2 way player you only need to be competent. I'm also not talking about taking him at 7 unless he blows up in the camp/workout process. There are a lot of teams with multiple picks in this draft, the Pelican's cupboard is so bare trading back is probably the smart play if no future All Stars are on the board.

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kinda the other side of the coin but

And still wasnt a double digit NBA scorer until his 5th year in the league. Wasn't the player he is now until year seven in the NBA. So you got 4 years of college and 4 years of NBA to hit 10 ppg, and doesnt become a legit NBA starter until he's 28 y/o

JJ has worked HARD to get where he is at, and it obviously took time.


Now, Heild may measure out better than Redick did, thus allowing him to be closer to that 26 y/o Redick than the rookie Redick. In the end, the pick we land will dictate if taking Hield is a value or not.

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My only point was showing an example of what I describe as a tendency for people to dismiss 3-4 year guys who don't wow you with measurables but have proven their abilities, in favor of the allure of young guys with measurables and "potential" that haven't proven anything. That it is a pitfall that many teams continually fall victim of and Reddick is an example of that who also happens to be similar to Hield's situation in that both were 4 year player of the year guys that got passed over for sexy upside guys that proved to be fools gold.

Look at McCollum as another example. 2 inch smaller wingspan then Hield, unlike Hield McCollum was heavily knocked for his size, speed and quickness. Like Hield, CJ was a great shooter, who, with his other 4 year college buddy Lillard(who was knocked for his perceived lack of upside and lack of elite athleticism as well) is turning the Trailblazers from a team people thought was in turmoil to being one of the best young backcourts in the league and just combined for 75 points and 10 assists to almost upset the second seed Raptors. McCollum I might add, is posting ungodly percentages post allstar break. Shooting 53% from three.

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He was also fortunate that Orlando was patient and committed to his development. Had they jettisoned him early like Sacramento did with Fredette he might be floating around somewhere in Europe right now.

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I think that is a lesson every team should be learning. I mean look at Jeff Withey for instance, or Aminu. Both guys we gave up on too soon.

Then again it is also smart to know when to cut ties. A guy like "DJ" Julian Wright was a lost cause early on but we stuck it out too long.

I would love to see Dunn on the Pelicans. He has an all around game and can be a true floor general. Our offense and defense will improve with this guy. But I highly doubt he goes out of top 5 if his shooting keeps improving.

Not to mention his passing ability and his defesive versatility is the best things about him. He already plays in a system simlar to our own with free motion spacing style.

Brown but he scares the shite out of me. He has great size and strength is athletic with great defense but can't shoot for crap and isn't a good offensive player he reminds me of Aminu.

Brown looks too much like Evans for my taste. I don't like his jumpshot and he bullying his way to the basket at the Collegiate level. He reminds me of a Sf version of Marcus Smart.

His footwork and super quick release allow him to get separation. The kid has no problems getting off a shot at any point in time.