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re: Official Lottery Thread - Pels Pick 6th

Posted on 3/4/13 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 8:29 pm to
Byron's boys blow a 20 point lead and lose to the Knicks

Posted by tgr4ever
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 9:09 pm to
I love you
Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

I love you



Posted by BetonMet8
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 9:12 pm to
Can i love you?
Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 9:13 pm to
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no the game is on


Posted by BetonMet8
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 9:14 pm to




Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 7:38 am to
Everyone lost last night except the Magic. If we take anything away from that performance last night, it's that we didn't gain ground on 4 teams in 1 night.

Updated rankings:



Tonight's games to watch:

Celtics vs. 76ers
Nuggets vs. Kings
This post was edited on 3/5/13 at 7:41 am
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 12:52 pm to
Not sure if this should get it's own thread or go in here. Mason over at 247 has done an in depth analysis of the teams we're battling with for ping pong balls, who we're likely to catch and not catch.

quote:

Given the above data, here are my projections for the NBA draft lottery order as of Tuesday, March 5th, 2013, with each team’s chance at landing the #1 pick:

1. Charlotte Bobcats (17-65) 25.0%
2. Orlando Magic (21-61) 19.9%
3. Sacramento Kings (25-57) 15.6%
4a. Cleveland Cavaliers (26-56) 10.35%
4b. New Orleans Pelicans (26-56) 10.35%
6a. Washington Wizards (27-55) 5.3%
6b. Phoenix Suns (27-55) 5.3%
8. Minnesota Timberwolves (28-55) 2.8%
9. Detroit Pistons (29-53) 1.7%
10. Toronto Raptors (31-51) 1.1%
11. Philadelphia 76ers (33-49) 0.8%
12. Portland Trail Blazers (36-46) 0.7%
13. Dallas Mavericks (37-45) 0.6%
14. Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) 0.5%

As you can see, a one-game difference in the standings could have immense residual impacts on the draft lottery. In fact, before last night’s “unexpected” loss to the Magic, I projected the Hornets to finish 27-55, which would have created a 3-way tie for the 5th-worst record, giving each of those three teams roughly a 6.45% chance at the #1 pick. By adding one more loss to the Hornets’ projection, they move into a 2-way tie for the 4th-worst record, earning them a 10.35% chance at that top pick, a difference of nearly 4%. Even if they don’t luck into the top pick for a second straight season, that one loss could mean the difference between the 7th pick and the 4th pick (going by these projections).

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Posted by DJ3K
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:03 pm to
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4a. Cleveland Cavaliers (26-56) 10.35% 4b. New Orleans Pelicans (26-56) 10.35%


Didn't something similar happen last year with the Cavs, except it was for third? They beat us out for third place's lottery chances of getting the first pick in the draft, but we still came out with the top overall pick?

Might history repeat itself?
Posted by gatorhater211
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:54 pm to
Are you going to post the updates on whatever page we are on each day or edit the OP?
Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:03 pm to
I'll start doing it in the OP
This post was edited on 3/5/13 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:08 pm to
I'm not going to get into the breakdowns, but while I still feel like we are a lot better than most of the teams we are "competing" with here, we have a brutal schedule down the road.

I think we finish tied for 4th. I'd be shocked if we did better than 7th.
Posted by gatorhater211
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:26 pm to
Alright. I was just curious
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 9:56 am to
After last night, this team goes one of two ways:

1) They are embarrassed and as a result work harder, and put together a few wins, putting us in the 7-9 pick range.

2) They completely crumble and they possibly only win 1 or two more games. Which would give us a top 3 slot.

I'm really not sure we'll win more than 2 games with Gordon not playing back to backs, Rivers done, and Smith done.
Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:42 am to
As much as I want a good pick, I really hope they show signs of something positive. Monty playing AD late in games, EG having a 30 point game, something to get fans excited for next year. Right now, we lack talent but now people are doubting the coaching staff.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Given the above data, here are my projections for the NBA draft lottery order as of Tuesday, March 5th, 2013, with each team’s chance at landing the #1 pick:

1. Charlotte Bobcats (17-65) 25.0%
2. Orlando Magic (21-61) 19.9%
3. Sacramento Kings (25-57) 15.6%
4a. Cleveland Cavaliers (26-56) 10.35%
4b. New Orleans Pelicans (26-56) 10.35%

I'm not so sure we finish with 26 wins
Posted by The Future
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 11:29 am to
At this point, we need to say frick the moral victories and go for the best pick.

Like I said earlier....if we can get someone with two first round picks to bite, I wouldn't mind trading out of the top 5. There's no franchise changers in this draft, we need young depth.
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 11:31 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115474 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 11:36 am to
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Like I said earlier....if we can get someone with two first round picks to bite, I wouldn't mind trading out of the top 5. There's no franchise changers in this draft, we need young depth.



I kind of disagree here. We need one more "Dynamic" young player player to add, and we need depth. I don't think we need "young depth" though. We need some real veteran depth, or up-and-commers in there 3-4th years.

The NBA is all about stars and just getting the best talent, not accumulating mediocre talent.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 11:44 am to
I agree.

You can't take an NFL draft mentality into the NBA draft. NBA teams don't trade back for more picks.

There are so few good players in NBA drafts that you have to take advantage of high picks. Even late lottery picks tend to be useless. You're likely drafting total scrubs if you trade back.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 12:57 pm to
Aminu and Xavier Henry are both later lottery picks.

You use a high pick and go for the "elite" talent (which very often busts as well). As eyeran said, this is the NBA not the NFL...completely different mentality.
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