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re: Kushner expects other moves before Rondo deal is official
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:37 pm to PelicansBay
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:37 pm to PelicansBay
quote:PJ Tucker is coming off the bench. What's your point?
Pj Tucker plays SF for the Rockets.
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:40 pm to PrimeTime Money
Melo would start at SF and Tucker would back him up. Do you get the point now, or do you need it colored in crayons?
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:40 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Yeah, the Knicks don't like that that's all the Rockets are giving up either. That's why they put the trade on pause and wanted Carmelo to expand his list of teams he's willing to be traded to.
That's a good question. You've got nothing. So...
But the Knicks have no power here. It's either trade him to the Rockets and get something, or keep him and get nothing out of it except for a disgruntled player to distract your young rebuilding team.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:41 pm to PelicansBay
quote:And who would start at PF you Mensa member?
Melo would start at SF and Tucker would back him up. Do you get the point now, or do you need it colored in crayons?
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:43 pm to PrimeTime Money
Melo at PF would make it really interesting I never thought about that.
I guess I look at this trade in a vacuum and think Melo is worth much more than Anderson, a second round pick in Onuaku, a 1st rounder, and Llull who was drafted 8 years ago but is still in Spain. I know y'all are strapped but something has to give.
I guess I look at this trade in a vacuum and think Melo is worth much more than Anderson, a second round pick in Onuaku, a 1st rounder, and Llull who was drafted 8 years ago but is still in Spain. I know y'all are strapped but something has to give.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
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But the Knicks have no power here. It's either trade him to the Rockets and get something, or keep him and get nothing out of i
This isn't necessarily true. Both sides are playing chicken right now. The teams could expand if Melo actually wants to play competitive basketball again.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:48 pm to PrimeTime Money
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They aren't in any position of strength.
The problem is that the Rockets aren't in a position of strength either. They don't have assets or cap for this but there is one piece of leverage they have over the Rockets. Time. They need this to happen sooner rather than later. What's the difference to the Knicks if they wait until midseason? Sure its an awkward few months in New York but they wait out for a better offer and get more value
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:49 pm to ShamelessPel
quote:Carmelo has no obligation to go play for a team he's really not interested to play for just so his soon to be former team can collect a few more assets.
The teams could expand if Melo actually wants to play competitive basketball again
It's been said he's pissed that the Knicks are screwing around by putting this trade on pause and he wants to go to Houston.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:51 pm to DeionDeion
quote:The Rockets don't NEED Carmelo. The Knicks are the ones who want him gone. They are the ones motivated to move him.
The problem is that the Rockets aren't in a position of strength either. They don't have assets or cap for this but there is one piece of leverage they have over the Rockets. Time. They need this to happen sooner rather than later.
Carmelo made it clear the Rockets are virtually the only team he's willing to be traded to.
The Rockets have all the time. The Knicks want to resolve this as soon as possible.
The Rockets are much more in a position of strength here.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:52 pm to PrimeTime Money
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And who would start at PF you Mensa member?
I don't have the answer for that. All they have on the roster is their three C's (Capella, Black, and Nene). I don't think it's smart to take Melo (a SF) out of the East (where everyone is undersized), and send him out West with a position change to PF also.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:53 pm to PrimeTime Money
the only reason I say the Rockets need him is because thats another bargaining chip for Houston next season when CP3 becomes a FA. I know thats not a huge threat because Houston gives CP3 a chance to compete for a title but who's to say the Spurs wont go after CP3 again?
If Melo is there no way Chris leaves
If Melo is there no way Chris leaves
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:56 pm to PelicansBay
quote:Carmelo is a better defender at PF than he is at SF. Defense is really the only side where position matters.
I don't have the answer for that. All they have on the roster is their three C's (Capella, Black, and Nene). I don't think it's smart to take Melo (a SF) out of the East (where everyone is undersized), and send him out West with a position change to PF also.
He'd be replacing Anderson at PF. Anderson is not a good defender.
The team as a whole would be much better with Carmelo at PF with Ariza and Tucker still at SF than taking away Anderson and Ariza and replacing them with Carmelo at SF and a nobody at PF. That makes no sense.
Carmelo is a SF/PF. He's not exclusively a SF.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:56 pm to PrimeTime Money
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But the Knicks have no power here
I say this with all due respect, since youre generally a good poster.
But you're delusional and being a Rocketard.
The Knicks have virtually all the power.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:59 pm to DeionDeion
quote:Chris Paul chose to go to Houston. He could have gone to the Spurs, but he didn't. He was traded so he can retain the 5th year on his contract.
the only reason I say the Rockets need him is because thats another bargaining chip for Houston next season when CP3 becomes a FA. I know thats not a huge threat because Houston gives CP3 a chance to compete for a title but who's to say the Spurs wont go after CP3 again? If Melo is there no way Chris leaves
He's going to re-sign with Houston. The 1-year deal thing is just a technicality.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:59 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:The only power the Knicks have is having the final say. They have no leverage here.
I say this with all due respect, since youre generally a good poster. But you're delusional and being a Rocketard. The Knicks have virtually all the power.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:01 pm to corndeaux
quote:
Anderson to NYK makes some sense. i completely understand and agree with not wanting to touch Anderson's deal, especially after the ludicrous Hardaway $$ (+ dumb Noah contract).
per the NY Post they don't want him
quote:
The Pelicans, once the home of Ryan Anderson, expressed interest in being one of the clubs involved, according to a source. Anderson’s contract, which has three years and $60 million remaining, needs to be part of the transaction because Anthony’s $27 million pact — plus trade kicker — is so immense. The Knicks have no interest in Anderson because he plays Kristaps Porzingis’ position and is older than the mid-20s-type player the club seeks.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:11 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
The only power the Knicks have is having the final say. They have no leverage here.
The only power the Knicks have is ownig the rights to Carmelo Anthony. So like...all the power.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:12 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Carmelo is a better defender at PF than he is at SF. Defense is really the only side where position matters.
He'd be replacing Anderson at PF. Anderson is not a good defender.
The team as a whole would be much better with Carmelo at PF with Ariza and Tucker still at SF than taking away Anderson and Ariza and replacing them with Carmelo at SF and a nobody at PF. That makes no sense.
Carmelo is a SF/PF. He's not exclusively a SF.
Melo will get plenty of minutes as a small ball PF; I wouldn't start him at PF. Have you payed attention to the size of SF's and PF's in the West? Just look at our divisions SF's: Parsons, Kiwi, Barnes, Ariza. Melo is a SF, if they are able to keep Ariza (I don't see how they can), he would likely start at PF. Unless you feel more comfortable with Melo matched up with the AD, LA, & Dirk's in our division. Seems like it would put more wear and tear on Melo's aging body to start at PF.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:13 pm to TigerintheNO
Post that NYT link for me mayne
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:14 pm to Fun Bunch
Yeah if I'm the new Knicks gm I'm saying "if you think Melo can get you a title I want a trade representing that."
And, once again, I bet that it's due to Ryan Anderson's contract and Rox not wanting to part with EG or Ariza.
And, once again, I bet that it's due to Ryan Anderson's contract and Rox not wanting to part with EG or Ariza.
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