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re: Jeff Van Gundy expresses interest in Pels HC job
Posted on 5/23/15 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/23/15 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm with you Slow. Those things concern me as well.
However there is reason to believe he could adapt. He's been heavily into analytics since leaving coaching, which most "dinosaurs" don't embrace at all. He's been around the game actively and has commented many many times about how the game has evolved. He recognizes it.
And his brother was definitely running a perimeter offense with Orlando.
We would have to see what offensive assistant he brings in.
However there is reason to believe he could adapt. He's been heavily into analytics since leaving coaching, which most "dinosaurs" don't embrace at all. He's been around the game actively and has commented many many times about how the game has evolved. He recognizes it.
And his brother was definitely running a perimeter offense with Orlando.
We would have to see what offensive assistant he brings in.
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Posted on 5/23/15 at 11:11 am to Fun Bunch
While he may have been out of the game, he's been on the sidelines covering and analyzing it for years now. He sees what works in today's NBA. It's not like he's been in the mountains off the grid or something. Would love to get JVG.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 11:17 am to boXerrumble
quote:
Jeff Van Gundy
Please no.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 12:46 pm to Fun Bunch
The Bird Writes has a few good articles up on JVG. One specifically addresses pace and his adoption of the 3 point shot.
LINK
There's more at the link, well worth the click. Dell won't confuse his resume with Gentry's, but there's probably more hope for balancing offense and defense with JVG than Thibs.
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The 0.290 3PAr the Rockets put up in Van Gundy's final season would rank 11th (and much higher than the Pelicans 0.233) during the past season. This is important as all four participants in the conference finals rank within the top seven (Houston 1st, Cleveland 2nd, Atlanta 4th, Golden State 7th) in 3PAr for the year.
That brings me to pace. Notice that, relative to the league, Van Gundy's teams slowly but surely got faster. Those first two seasons with the Knicks there were only 29 teams in the league (pre-Charlotte Bobcats/Hornets). In 2006-07 the Rockets under Van Gundy played faster (90.7-89.8) and took far more 3-pointers (0.290-0.247) than the Gregg Popovich coached San Antonio Spurs. Do I expect JVG to coach one of the fastest teams in the NBA? No. Would he come close to, or possibly exceed, league average pace? Considering the direction his coaching has gone and the roster in New Orleans, I think it is a strong possibility.
JVG's acceptance and implementation of analytics on offense and defense is clear. Not only did that team lead the league in 3PAr, they were fifth in fewest long mid-range jump shots. Not only that, but as has usually been the case with great defensive teams, they force opponents to take the most of these inefficient shots while allowing the fewest attempts in the restricted area. The drum I have pounded all season, quit allowing shots at the basket, is a strength.
LINK
There's more at the link, well worth the click. Dell won't confuse his resume with Gentry's, but there's probably more hope for balancing offense and defense with JVG than Thibs.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 12:52 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:dear god no
Jeff Van Gundy
if he's anywhere near as much of a douche irl as he is commenting on basketball i'm not sure i could handle him
Posted on 5/23/15 at 1:00 pm to danman6336
Because having a coach that most consider a good guy worked out so well for us.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 1:10 pm to TigerinATL
i could care less if he's a good guy or not
he's just really annoying during games. and if there is any correlation between saying stupid shite while commenting on games and being a stupid person, then we should watch out for JVG.
just dan's .02
he's just really annoying during games. and if there is any correlation between saying stupid shite while commenting on games and being a stupid person, then we should watch out for JVG.
just dan's .02
Posted on 5/23/15 at 1:17 pm to danman6336
Holy crap I couldn't disagree more about that. I love him as a commentator. He's hilarious. I find his ideas to be always fun and interesting.
As for that BW article...good stuff. Food for thought.
As for that BW article...good stuff. Food for thought.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 1:22 pm to Fun Bunch
I honestly used to like him a lot a few years ago
the quality has declined rapidly. I have to keep him and lolMarkJackson on mute half the time now.
the quality has declined rapidly. I have to keep him and lolMarkJackson on mute half the time now.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 1:38 pm to TigerinATL
I'm starting to like the idea of JVG, even more so than Gentry (unless he brings Adams).
Gentry with Adams
Thibs or JVG
Gentry without Adams
Gentry with Adams
Thibs or JVG
Gentry without Adams
Posted on 5/23/15 at 2:29 pm to Epic Cajun
I just watched a recent interview with him about building offense. It's on YouTube.
He basically said you have to build it around your personnel and he's felxible as to what is run. He said all that matters is getting quality shots. His favorite sequence is multiple passes with good movement that ends in a layup. He cited a recent Spurs play as an example.
He basically said you have to build it around your personnel and he's felxible as to what is run. He said all that matters is getting quality shots. His favorite sequence is multiple passes with good movement that ends in a layup. He cited a recent Spurs play as an example.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 2:34 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
His favorite sequence is Multiple passes with good movement that ends in a layup
Thats the opposite of what Monty wanted
This post was edited on 5/23/15 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 5/23/15 at 2:38 pm to Fun Bunch
frick it i'm in
We need some assistant coaches too and I'm not sure who JVG would want.
We need some assistant coaches too and I'm not sure who JVG would want.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 2:58 pm to ALT F4
quote:
Isn't Bill Cowher the Bill Cowher of football?
No, that's Hulk Hogan.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 2:59 pm to touchdownjeebus
quote:
We need some assistant coaches too and I'm not sure who JVG would want.
Mark Jackson!!!
We might actually get more than 3 ESPN games
Posted on 5/23/15 at 2:59 pm to LosLobos111
I would be fine with JVG.
kind of would rather him over thibodaux. I will be upset at first with gentry, but I'll give him a shot to prove me wrong, just won't be happy giving him the chance.
kind of would rather him over thibodaux. I will be upset at first with gentry, but I'll give him a shot to prove me wrong, just won't be happy giving him the chance.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
I'd much rather keep Monty than get Van Gundy. He's by far the worst option.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:18 pm to Puddinhead
quote:Why?
I'd much rather keep Monty than get Van Gundy. He's by far the worst option.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:23 pm to Puddinhead
Why?
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:32 pm to Puddinhead
I really don't get this. The team's main issue with Monty at the helm was horrible defense. JVG would be an instant upgrade in defense. The offense will be fine, as long as it flows through AD (and Jrue if healthy) and our 3 point shooters.
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