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re: In better news, Eric Gordon is on the trade block

Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:30 pm to
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You know better than me, so how could we make the trade work salary wise if Sanders is only making $3 mil this season, but $11 mil a season the next four years? If you add OJ ($8 mil/season) to the trade then next year we are way over the tax, I believe.


1. Sanders' salary is calculated under Base Year Compensation (BYC) for trading purposes.

That is the greater of his old salary or 50% of his new salary. Given his new salary is about $13 million, his BYC value would be about $6m.

$6m plus Mayo's $8m would be an exact match for Gordon's contract.


2. The matching only matters if both teams are over the cap.

Milwaukee's actually under the cap by about $3-4m, so they can accept Gordon without sending out roughly $14m of their own if necessary.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5871 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:32 pm to
shite, I didn't know Mayo was making 8 mil a year, but this is prob the type of bad deal we may have to take back to move Gordon.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95303 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:33 pm to
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If you add OJ ($8 mil/season) to the trade then next year we are way over the tax, I believe.


We'd be losing Gordon's $14m to get Sanders' $11m and Mayo's $8m, so it is a net difference of $5m.

We're at $47.6m for next year before Davis and Rivers' team options are picked up. If the cap stays the same, then we're just over the cap and not into the luxury tax yet.
Posted by Spitting Venom
Member since Sep 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:34 pm to
And if that happened, how far over the cap would that put us once Sanders starts his 4 year $44 mil deal?

ETA: answered before I asked.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61479 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:34 pm to
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trade then next year we are way over the tax, I believe.



Take my figures from earlier in the thread, $42 million, add $19 milllion and remove 2 roster holds and you're at $60 million. Add another $5 million for the MLE SF and you're at $66 with rounding. The Tax Threshold this year is $71.7 million and it might go up next year. But you'd have at least $5-$6 more million to play with. Once you replace Roberts and the usual Dleaguer you still can probably only afford one of Smith/Aminu unless they come back cheap, but you'd be under the tax with todays team more or less trading Gordon and Smith/Aminu for Sanders/Mayo/MLE SF
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:36 pm to
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Can Sanders man the center position? I know he's seen as a defensive force, but he's only listed at 235


Yes. Point of reference, Noah is only 230 lbs.

Here is Matt Moore's in depth interview with him from last year.

LINK

If this is even remotely possible, it would be a coup for the Pelicans. A young, proven elite rim protector for $11M/year next to Davis? Yes please.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:36 pm to
Yep, he's good enough. We don't really live in an era of dominating centers.
Posted by Spitting Venom
Member since Sep 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:46 pm to
Does Jrue's tibia heal by All Star game if we trade Gordon for Sanders??
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61479 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Here is Matt Moore's in depth interview with him from last year.


Nice link, sounds like he could teach AD quite a bit too. I think I'm all in on this, might even be willing to give up a 2016 1st.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12255 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:53 pm to
HE has got to go...

See my thread from earlier
Posted by acanni1
BR
Member since Nov 2007
144 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:00 pm to
Forgive me, because I am ignorant about this stuff, but why not Granger for Gordon? Granger has an expiring that would give us $$ to utilize next year.
Posted by Spitting Venom
Member since Sep 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:01 pm to
I really like the idea. The Gordon on trade block thread on PR has a few nay sayers.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61479 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Forgive me, because I am ignorant about this stuff, but why not Granger for Gordon? Granger has an expiring that would give us $$ to utilize next year.


Lance Stephenson stepping up is a big part of why the Pacers are doing so well this year. Indiana needs the cap space to sign Lance Stephenson making taking on Gordon a non starter.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted by acanni1
BR
Member since Nov 2007
144 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:01 pm to
Thanks.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28723 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:04 pm to
One of Sanders teammates recently blasted him to the media about earning his money. The combination of that with his mediocre numbers this season might mean his doesn't give a shite.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12255 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:05 pm to
Why not Phoenix again? They have money and draft picks?

He wanted to be there and now he can be. They are shockingly doing good and are in contention so let's give them a player that will help them win in the pla...I almost threw up saying that.

Good luck EG but I think we are stuck with this one.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72007 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:05 pm to
Milwaukee -- "Hey, Larry Sanders is on the block, let's maximize the value we can get for him and trade him for Eric Gordon!!!"
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12255 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Milwaukee -- "Hey, Larry Sanders is on the block, let's maximize the value we can get for him and trade him for Eric Gordon!!!"


Isn't he still hurt? I might be wrong. I don't follow the Bucks and forgot they even had a relevant team anymore lol
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28723 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:08 pm to
No, he isn't hurt
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61479 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:09 pm to
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Milwaukee -- "Hey, Larry Sanders is on the block, let's maximize the value we can get for him and trade him for Eric Gordon!!!"


It's not Sanders for Gordon, it's Sanders and $8 million per year Mayo for Gordon.
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