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If Zion gets fat he loses gtd. money, must weigh in during season

Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:10 pm
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The sum of his weight and body fat percentage must be below 295. If it is not, the amount of guaranteed money in Williamson’s contract can be reduced.


nola.com article

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Nick Underhill

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Oh, wow. Zion has to weigh-in during the season and keep the sum of his weight and body fat percentage under 295


This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:12 pm to
so essentially he needs to maintain weight below 280 to be safe.
Posted by brmark70816
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:18 pm to
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The sum of his weight and body fat percentage must be below 295.


I read the article and I still am not sure what this sentence means. They add them together?

So he weighs 275 and he is at 21%, he is over? Is that what they mean? So he can be 280 at 10% and be ok?
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:19 pm to
Chadboi, if you think he's 15% bf at 280 I've got a 504 number in Covington to sell ya.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:20 pm to
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I read the article and I still am not sure what this sentence means. They add them together? So he weighs 275 and he is at 21%, he is over? Is that what they mean? So he can be 280 at 10% and be ok?

Doesn’t really seem like rocket surgery to me
Posted by armsdealer
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:29 pm to
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if you think he's 15% bf at 280


Yeah, he needs to be 270 ish to stay safe. That isn't unrealistic for an athlete.

30% body fat on his frame isn't going to look as fat as your average man with 30% body fat.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:30 pm to
I hope Clark's sources are good on this or could be another embarrassment.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:33 pm to
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Chadboi, if you think he's 15% bf at 280 I've got a 504 number in Covington to sell ya.




enlighten me what you think his bf% is at this time then?
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:46 pm to
Holy Crap, so if he is 290, he has to be 4% body fat.

I could dig that honestly lol.

But more realistically, he can kind of hover around 280-285 and 9-12% body fat.

Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:54 pm to
He said in an interview earlier this off-season he ideally wants to be at 265 for his playing weight next season, but they don’t believe that is realistic so they are aiming for 270, but he will do everything he can to hit his 265 goal.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:00 pm to
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He said in an interview earlier this off-season he ideally wants to be at 265


So 20 lbs lighter than year 2 Zion? Dear God he's gonna kill ppl
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:03 pm to
Yeah, I think a decent goal for him is to weigh 260-270ish and have a body fat percentage in the teens.

ETA: clearly he wouldn't agree to something that he didn't think was likely, so he has to be in good shape right now
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 4:04 pm
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:05 pm to
Let’s tie a bow on this contract and dig into what it means.

Zion literally chose to sign a 5 year contract with no player option, injury protection clauses, and weight clauses.

To me, and to us as a fanbase, that should illustrate how much he wants to play in New Orleans and with the Pelicans.

Because he could’ve just as easily said F that, to 1 out of those 3 contract aspects or even all 3 and demanded a trade. And we probably would’ve shipped him off to Brooklyn for KD.
Posted by BamaPelican
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:07 pm to
Did y’all see the Barkley interview where he said Moses Malone told him he was fat and needed to get in shape, then as he went from 3 bills down to 240s he started to get to play then played better and better? I think that is the Zion archetype…if he is in shape then he is an athletic wrecking ball.

LINK -Barkey Interview
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:15 pm to
To give an idea on the 15% and 280lbs numbers, here’s a little perspective:

They measure body fat % at the draft combine (for those that get measured). In the last ten years, only 5 players have had a body fat percentage of 15% or higher. Only 2 have failed the “The sum of his weight and body fat percentage must be below 295” criteria, including Kofi Cockburn this year (293, 9% bf). I know that Zion is unlike any other player, but this is a completely reasonable ask.
Posted by lsukicker436
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:23 pm to
This is great in all, but since it says his guaranteed money would decrease, that would only happen if we cut him, if I'm understanding correctly. Which isn't going to happen. I still like it, but I don't see it mattering if he's over a combined 295 at any point.
Posted by jmcwhrter
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:35 pm to
if he's over 295 then we're fricked anyway
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

Zion literally chose to sign a 5 year contract with no player option, injury protection clauses, and weight clauses.

To me, and to us as a fanbase, that should illustrate how much he wants to play in New Orleans and with the Pelicans.

Because he could’ve just as easily said F that, to 1 out of those 3 contract aspects or even all 3 and demanded a trade. And we probably would’ve shipped him off to Brooklyn for KD.



I actually think that the weight clause is a "Cortez burning his ships" moment for Zion, and that Zion probably was ultimately happy that this clause was in the contract.

Zion wants to be MVP. He wants to lead the Pelicans to a title. But to do those things, he needs to be in perfect physical condition. Getting in what Stan Van Gundy euphemistically called "point guard shape" isn't easy for Zion. Now, when he reaches for that bag of Doritos, he has the added awareness that those Doritos could cost him millions of dollars. The weight clause in the contract just adds to his motivation to be truly great; it helps him become the best that he can be.
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 5:02 pm to
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I read the article and I still am not sure what this sentence means. They add them together?


That's precisely what it means
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 5:28 pm to
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They measure body fat % at the draft combine (for those that get measured). In the last ten years, only 5 players have had a body fat percentage of 15% or higher. Only 2 have failed the “The sum of his weight and body fat percentage must be below 295” criteria, including Kofi Cockburn this year (293, 9% bf). I know that Zion is unlike any other player, but this is a completely reasonable ask.


Hence how I derived my number estimate
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