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If I told you preseason I'd have more confidence in Herb hitting 3s than Trey...
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:37 am
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:37 am
Trey is now down to .347 from 3 and Herb is at .415.
That's wild.
I think the positive takeaway is that growth is not linear.
I don't think Trey is now a bad shooter or that Herb is Steph.
It just shows that Herb is putting in work and Trey is slumping and lacking confidence. I'm sure things will revert back to the mean at some point, but with Herb settling in around 38 percent and Trey getting back to close to 40.
That's wild.
I think the positive takeaway is that growth is not linear.
I don't think Trey is now a bad shooter or that Herb is Steph.
It just shows that Herb is putting in work and Trey is slumping and lacking confidence. I'm sure things will revert back to the mean at some point, but with Herb settling in around 38 percent and Trey getting back to close to 40.
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:03 am to ghost2most
The shooting is the least of my worries overall with Trey.
It’s every other aspect of the game in which he’s giving the team nothing that’s the most concerning .
Herb is the highest IQ and lives for the game and it shows.
It’s every other aspect of the game in which he’s giving the team nothing that’s the most concerning .
Herb is the highest IQ and lives for the game and it shows.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:40 am to AboveTheRim
This year showed me that herb is an untouchable.
I still think trey's leg injury is affecting his shooting. If your lift changes so does your shot
I still think trey's leg injury is affecting his shooting. If your lift changes so does your shot
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:02 am to htran90
Herb may be the best player on the team
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:11 am to ghost2most
The league has noticed too and it’s helped a lot with clearing up space. Miami didn’t really leave Herb by himself behind the arc at all
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:11 am to ghost2most
But everyone thinks Trey will get the max and is worth it. I said many times, as much as Anotonio Daniels said his game has evolved, it really hasn't. Heck is FT shooting is down.
At least with Zion i can say his little jumper / floater is coming around. his vision and patience on O has to get better. He's starting to try a little more on D as seen by a few block attempts.
And im not sold on Z yet being a guy that can carry us.
This team has to find better pieces. Herb is one that isn't going anywhere!
At least with Zion i can say his little jumper / floater is coming around. his vision and patience on O has to get better. He's starting to try a little more on D as seen by a few block attempts.
And im not sold on Z yet being a guy that can carry us.
This team has to find better pieces. Herb is one that isn't going anywhere!
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:55 am to ghost2most
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It just shows that Herb is putting in work and Trey is slumping and lacking confidence. I'm sure things will revert back to the mean at some point, but with Herb settling in around 38 percent and Trey getting back to close to 40.
Honestly, goin' in to start of season, I woulda been very happy with Herb improving to shooting 35%-36% on 3s for the year. Now...at this point, I don't know WHAT to think !!
He's getting MUCH more confident goin' to the basket & has started to figure out that he can, on his own, just turn the corner off the dribble & continue on the hoop. Will only get better at this as it is still a new development. He's learning how to play offense "on the fly"...in the NBA. NOT...an easy thing to do.
In the "wth was that?" category...I'm pretty sure he knocked down an off-hand baby hook, coming across the lane. In 6 years or so, I've never seen that one. The guy is only gonna get better...offensively...as his confidence grows.
BTW: As someone mentioned earlier...I agree that this was maybe the first time this year that I have thought Herb was a bit gassed. Showed a bit...coming down the stretch.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:09 am to ghost2most
Part of the difference is shot selection. Trey is shooting 3’s quickly off the catch from what feels like the logo at times. When you’re struggling, there’s no use in taking harder shots, quicker shots, or shots with people in your face just because you’ve made them in the past. Take a dribble and create a better shot or pass the ball.
More easy shots equals more makes which equals elevating confidence and thus better percentage on the tougher ones. He’s simply forcing too much this year
More easy shots equals more makes which equals elevating confidence and thus better percentage on the tougher ones. He’s simply forcing too much this year
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:46 am to AboveTheRim
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The shooting is the least of my worries overall with Trey.
A 3 point specialist shooting 34% is concerning.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:54 am to ghost2most
Herb has been a better basketball player than Trey every step of the way.
I like Trey, but this board in general talks him up too much.
I like Trey, but this board in general talks him up too much.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 12:40 pm to kneenola
quote:Trey was better last season.
Herb has been a better basketball player than Trey every step of the way.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 1:14 pm to shel311
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Trey was better last season.
This.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 1:16 pm to TriggaTrey
Yeah I really never understood why Trey takes so many steps back behind the line. Put your damn feet behind the line and hold your hands up. I guarantee there’s correlation with how far back he’s shooting and his percentage going down
Posted on 2/24/24 at 1:35 pm to ghost2most
Herb is tracking to becoming baby Kawhi. His handles have definitely improved and truthfully we should continue to create more plays for him.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 1:39 pm to ghost2most
I basically view Herb as a late blooming Kawhi and he is untouchable.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 1:46 pm to spaghettioeauxs
Get a layup first, or a free throw. You’re 6’10”. Attack the basket.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 1:48 pm to SHMILL
I kind of see that as AD’s advice to Trey. Get some momentum in some part of your game. He just really isn’t bringing a lot lately.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:21 pm to Colonel Flagg
Just talking bs here but it would be cool if Trey had somewhat of a post up game. He’s 6’10, his shot shouldn’t be getting blocked and he’s a 90% FT shooter. If he could create space he would be more versatile. He’s just gotta add something, he can’t shoot 1-10 from deep
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:41 pm to MrJimBeam
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Herb is tracking to becoming baby Kawhi. His handles have definitely improved and truthfully we should continue to create more plays for him.
Something that we don't talk enough about is how elite a finisher Herb has become in transition. I saw a ranking earlier in the season for points per transition possession, and Herb was #5 in the NBA.
Anytime he has the ball in transition, I'm expecting a basket -- his Euro is just too good.
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