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How would getting top 3 pick in lottery change things?

Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:02 am
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:02 am
Would that be enough to get us serious consideration in a J. Butler trade (kind of a Wiggins to TWolves type deal)? Would trading that pick plus Asik to clear cap space and bring in a Pu Pu platter of Redick and a David Lee type player be enough to intrigue CP3 to join (obv they'd all sign at same time).

Would CP consider joining and we KEEP the pick?

So much room, mates. So many activities if we win top 3 in the lottery

This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 12:04 am
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34248 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:05 am to
Trading a top 3 pick to shed Asik would be moronic
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25446 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:21 am to
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Trading a top 3 pick to shed Asik would be moronic



i'm gonna go out on a limb here, but i'm pretty sure OP is not stating we simply trade a top 3 pick to shed Asik and get nothing in return. We would get Butler in return.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:33 am to
The targets would be Butler and George and they would be possible but it also depends on which of the 3 picks the Pels get and who else gets the pick at 1 if say the Pels get 2.

I think the 3rd pick has far less value than 1 and a good amount less than 2. They land the first pick and I would say there is a 75% chance they get PG or Butler. Two? 40%. Three? 5-10%

I'd be really interested to see the possible targets if they land 3. I think they'd dump some contracts and then get a quasi All-Star type and a solid starter in return
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34248 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:56 am to
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but i'm pretty sure OP is not stating we simply trade a top 3 pick to shed Asik and get nothing in return. We would get Butler in return.




Read his post again.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81341 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:28 am to
I was thinking a 3-way deal to help us get Butler and she'd Asik for our top 3 and another couple firsts OR failing that trade the pick and Asik and get two good but not Butler caliber players in return (George Hill, Chandler Parsons caliber players, for example) because we need to make a run next year to get Boogs to re-sign and likely don't have time for our rookie pick to adapt.



This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81341 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:31 am to
He was right I'm being open ended, grumpy mate

I'd rather have two starters minus Asik than have Asik and the #3 pick since we need to make push for 2nd round next year to keep Boogs (at least perhaps).
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 11:33 am
Posted by WhySoSerious
No.
Member since Jan 2014
765 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:44 am to
quote:

getting top 3 pick in lottery

Not gonna happen.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:46 am to
You have to stop saying "top 3 pick" as if all are equal

Your options with the first pick are vastly different than the third-- especially if teams like Boston and LA or even Philly are ahead of you
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6858 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:46 pm to
We're saying top three pick because that's the only kind we keep dude. I think just about everyone realizes that the 3rd pick of the draft is not as valuable as the 1st...

I'm praying for a top three because it's about 3x's more likely that getting #1 overall. It makes these hypothetical's a little more plausible.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6858 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:52 pm to
I'd also argue that pick 3 is more valuable this year than in season's past. This a deep draft with no clear cut #1.

Markelle Fultz, Lonzo Ball, and Josh Jackson are all supreme talents. I think the 3rd pick would still have good value, maybe not for a Jimmy Butler, but shite, why not just keep the pick? Any of those three would fill a need
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25446 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

You have to stop saying "top 3 pick" as if all are equal



They are not all that different.
There is no clear cut favorite at #1, and if you ask me, watching how Ball get dominated in the tournament, to go with his irritating off the court crap, as well as the fact that Fultz played on a team that sucked, i don't understand the hype for these guys, and is probably why there is no clear cut #1 pick, not b/c all three are that good, but b/c there are major flaws with all 3.

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:53 pm to
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I'm praying for a top three because it's about 3x's more likely that getting #1 overall.


That's not really accurate. The odds for the #10 spot winning are:

1 - 1.1%
2 - 1.3%
3 - 1.6%

While the odds of getting the 3 spot are significantly higher than the other spots, they all are similar in their unlikeliness.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9933 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:16 pm to
quote:


While the odds of getting the 3 spot are significantly higher than the other spots, they all are similar in their unlikeliness.



Semantics, but the odds of getting a top 3 pick (4%) is about 3x more likely than getting #1 overall (1.1%).
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:48 pm to
Gotcha. Probabilities were always a part of math class that made my eyes glaze over. Apologies to SCLSUMuddogs
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9933 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:58 pm to
Regardless of 1-3, any Pels fan would be esctatic if we get to keep our pick as it adds an asset we shouldn't have. I think that is why everyone references if we get a top-3 pick.

The funniest part of the entire trade is that we have better odds of getting a top 3 pick than Sacramento does.
Posted by Np52478
Slidell
Member since Mar 2015
184 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:45 pm to
Wellllll, you get a top 3 pick instead of the kings. And probably let Jrue hit the curb. Lonzo and Laver show
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:41 am to
If we got that pick, my lord. Do any and everything to get Josh Jackson
Posted by pawel
Warsaw, Poland
Member since Oct 2016
788 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 7:34 am to
Even if you have a possibility to draft in position of need - PG (Fultz, Ball) or SF (Jackson, Tatum) - Dell probably will trade him

But yeah - love those prospects
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5729 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 7:39 am to
The way I see it is the NOLA did the NBA a solid by being able to quickly get the ASG done and without a hitch. So, if you believe the lottery is rigged in anyway they owe us and will get us a top 3 pick!
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