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Frank Jackson in depth analysis

Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:09 pm
Oleh over at TBW digs into Jackson's combine numbers and college stats and compares him to other players.

quote:

Did you notice, though, how well Jackson’s incredible agility and leaping ability practically outpaces the rest of this group??? At first glance, it seems he’s the second coming of Zach LaVine... but with a better jumper!

This analogy isn’t as far-fetched as you might think. According to Luke Storey of P3, Jackson could be the most freakish athlete from the 2017 NBA Draft.

"Usually when we assess athletes coming through the doors, it's a case of 'OK, these things you're good at, these things you're OK at, mechanically you need to work on this, some of your power numbers here are not great,'" Storey said. "With Frank, it was a case of, 'OK, you are a specimen. You are good at this, exceptional at this, very good at this, exceptional at this.' So let's keep him exceptional at everything."


There's a lot more at the LINK including charts and numbers. Jackson probably won't contribute much this year, but it wouldn't be crazy for him to be the 3rd guard in another year or 2.
Posted by Garden of Asik
Slidell
Member since Jun 2017
426 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:24 pm to
Sounds like Frank Jackson is probably a better prospect than the guy we drafted 6th last year and we used him to trade for Demarcus. Does this mean we can possibly use Frank Jackson to help facilitate a trade for Kyrie?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:28 pm to
Frank Jackson is very solid player
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16433 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:19 am to
He hasn't played one NBA minute yet. Let's not get carried away and call a second round pick a solid player
Posted by MrPel
Member since Dec 2014
2342 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:23 am to
If one of Diallo/Jackson works out in the long run then Demps did a good job. Hopefully both players notice and appreciate the opportunity the Pelicans organization gave them and decide to stick around after their contracts are up.

I'm a firm believer that Diallo will be an Ibaka in this league in 3 more seasons. He really needs some solid minutes. As for Jackson had he not gone to Duke like LSU or something he would have gotten a lot more attention.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16433 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:26 am to
Yeah 1 for 2 on our last two second round picks is nothing to complain about. I'm actually optimistic both will end up being contributors sometime down the road. However, I'm not getting my hopes up
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Diallo/Jackson


Both can end up being solid contributors, it'll just take time. They were both supposed to be 1st round picks, and both came out earlier than they should've. Jackson turned 19 in May, he is young as hell.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:38 am to
For his athleticism and pretty decent college production, why didn't he go higher?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61514 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:43 am to
quote:

decent college production


Efficient production maybe, but he only averaged 10.9 ppg with 1.7 assists to 1.4 turnovers. Also remember that this draft was pretty loaded at guard. In another year he probably would have slipped into the 1st.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 10:43 am
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:47 am to
Duke also had Tatum, Kennard and Allen, who were the first 3 scoring option.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 10:49 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38820 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 11:16 am to
he didn't go higher because 30 something other teams decided there was a better player to take ahead of him. I hope he turns out to be good but I really don't get the point of hyping him now
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61514 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 11:21 am to
I don't think it's hype as much as a dead offseason. Oleh researched some stuff and the results were kind of exciting. But it shouldn't really give much hope for this season. MM was trying to discourage the Diallo hype on twitter because good playoff teams very rarely have a young guy recently drafted in the 2nd round get minutes. If a successful season means Diallo shouldn't play much this year that means Jackson shouldn't expect play much even next year.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38820 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

MM was trying to discourage the Diallo hype on twitter because good playoff teams very rarely have a young guy recently drafted in the 2nd round get minutes. If a successful season means Diallo shouldn't play much this year that means Jackson shouldn't expect play much even next year.


players who will not impact gameplay this season:

-asik
-pondexter
-diallo
-jackson
-crawford

injuries excepted of course
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

asik
-pondexter
-diallo
-jackson
-crawford


I'd argue diallo will contribute, more so than ajinca.

There's still 20-30 minutes that need to be played
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38820 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:41 pm to
I think you are going to be disappointed in how much ajinca plays over diallo
I hate ajinca with a fury but that's life as a fan
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61514 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:50 pm to
Ajinca seemed to play much better when relegated to his normal role of 10-15 bench minutes every other game vs. earlier in the season when they showcased him as a starter in 11 straight games and told him don't foul even if it means not defending.

ORtg DRtg NetRtg
Pre Trade 98.2 106.4 -8.2
Post Trade 104 103.5 0.6
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9792 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:41 pm to
Is he a finisher like LaVine? I knew the guy was supposed to be a good athlete, but LaVine is like freakish athletically. Plus he's 6'5ish, isn't Jackson like 6'2?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61514 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Is he a finisher like LaVine?


He is shorter like you mentioned, but he also won the McDonalds All American Slam Dunk contest. If you look at this highlight clip it's very Morey Ball. He's either knocking down a catch and shoot 3 or getting to the basket for a layup or dunk. He looks like a pretty good finisher and also has multiple dribble moves to get to the basket. LINK
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9792 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:20 pm to
I just love adding young, cheap talent that might surprise. I have been so let down with all our misses or never was guys the past few years (Pierre Jackson, Patric Young, Russ Smith..). We are kind of due to hit on one eventually..
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10405 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:07 pm to
He's already shown that he is a good finisher after contact. Has great body control and touch around the basket. Whether that translate to the NBA is the question. Unless you are a physical specimen, finishing around the basket is one of the toughest thing to do for a young player in the league. I hope those skills translate for him as we do not have a guy in the backcourt with strong finishing ability. All we have are jump shooters.
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