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re: Different perspective on the chances of landing our top-5 protection.

Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:56 pm to
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Keith Smart might have been #1 overall last year.


showing your age...this ain't 1988, bro.

It's Marcus Smart
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:59 pm to
I was there at the game winner he hit in the dome.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63484 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:06 pm to
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I will admit that the hype for Wiggins is over blown.


no shite.

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I haven't seen this Embiid dude,


He looks better than any of them, imo, but he would do well to spend another year in school.

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Julius Randle is a double double machine. If we moved Ryno in the offseason, I'd be cool with him.
Jabari Parker is as fluid a scorer that has come along in several years.
Keith Smart might have been #1 overall last year.


They all have promise. I've not yet reached an orgasm, however.

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You're acting like this draft sucks as bad as last year.


Nope. It's just not as great as hyped by the know nothing sportswriters and the fan boys.

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We better get one of these players, because with the lack of cap room, and God forbid we don't have a change at head coach, and no 1st rounder, Jesus, does it get more depressing than that?



Things aren't as bad as you think. You guys are absolutely nuts if you think we can't make moves, improve our cap space and acquire vets. Seriously. It's not doom and gloom.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:09 pm to
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know nothing sportswriters and the fan boys.


I'm going to go out on the thinnest of limbs and guess that those people may have a better idea about the draft more so than a random message board poster who 2 days ago said he hasn't watched much college bball and now says that he has "watched enough".

But frick me, what kind of logic is that?


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Things aren't as bad as you think. You guys are absolutely nuts if you think we can't make moves, improve our cap space and acquire vets. Seriously. It's not doom and gloom.


Ok, what moves can we make that would benefit this team?
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 10:10 pm
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80169 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:13 pm to
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Keith Smart might have been #1 overall last year.


Keith Smart
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:13 pm to
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Ok, what moves can we make that would benefit this team?


Assuming Ryno, Evans, EG, Jrue are all back next year and AD's and Rivers' team options are picked up: the total number is $53,702,934 - the current salary cap for the '13-14 season was $58,679,000.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63484 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:15 pm to
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I'm going to go out on the thinnest of limbs and guess that those people may have a better idea about the draft more so than a random message board poster who 2 days ago said he hasn't watched much college bball and now says that he has "watched enough".


Meh, based upon history, I'm not so sure.

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Ok, what moves can we make that would benefit this team?


I don't have a list, sugar britches. I do think that there will be teams that will be itching to acquire just that one piece to put them over the top and that may be willing to give up too much. Happens most every year. Why do you think this roster is so locked up? Haven't you seen some of the moves made in the last few years?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47550 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:17 pm to
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teams may be content with semi-tanking



wait, wtf?

the idea of tanking for the lottery isn't just to increase your chances for the #1 pick, but to guarantee yourself the best pick possible if you're not called for the #1 or #2 or #3 pick

you play hard for the first half of the season to see where you are, then you begin the soft tank if you're not going anywhere. this is where the pels are and guys just won't rush back if they're hurt, etc.

the last few games, if you're in position, THEN you do the hard tank, culminating in signing Mark Madsen to chuck 3's in the last game of the season, even if he hasn't played in years
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:17 pm to
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I don't have a list, sugar britches.


And with that, you show that you are clearly angry that nobody agrees with you so why continue the conversation?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63484 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:20 pm to
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And with that, you show that you are clearly angry that nobody agrees with you so why continue the conversation?




What the everloving frick?

Yeah, I'm very angry.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure there are a few people that agree with me. I'm going to have fun next season with my "I told you so's".
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
2815 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:21 pm to
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the idea of tanking for the lottery isn't just to increase your chances for the #1 pick, but to guarantee yourself the best pick possible if you're not called for the #1 or #2 or #3 pick


I can argue that the #5 picked player is as valuable as the #1 this year. There is no clear-cut #1 player. Hence teams won't compete for the worst record, just close to it.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:22 pm to
VOR is drunk and out of control again
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:23 pm to
Cuse- Derrick Coleman, Rony Seikaly, Sherman Douglas.

Indiana- Keith Smart, Steve Alford.

Pitino coached Providence.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63484 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:23 pm to
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VOR is drunk and out of control again


Dude, read my posts. You know I'm right.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:25 pm to
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Dude, read my posts. You know I'm right.


Not this time, dog.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47550 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:27 pm to
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I can argue that the #5 picked player is as valuable as the #1 this year. There is no clear-cut #1 player. Hence teams won't compete for the worst record, just close to it.


but you still have to lose as many games as possible for it to happen...

and wouldn't you rather be #2 or #1 anyway to make sure you get the guy YOU want?
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
2815 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:33 pm to
Of course anyone would prefer the #1 pick.
But you have options in a talented-deep draft.

Like I said earlier, if Lebron James was in this draft, EVERYONE near the bottom would tank AS HARD AS POSSIBLE. But because you can still grab Embiid, Parker, Exum, Smart, Wiggins, Randle with any of the top 6 picks, teams may be hesitant to go "full-blown tank mode"
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63484 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:37 pm to
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Not this time, dog.


So we're fricked unless we tank and fire Monty. Is that what you're saying? Do you realize how silly that proposition is?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:38 pm to
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Do you realize how silly that proposition is?


Do you realize how silly the proposition that we could trade Aminu and/or Miller and get something valuable in return is?

Because that's what you are saying in the other thread.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:40 pm to
Fire Monty is a given.

I'll half agree with you on your talent evaluation. I'd rather get the pick and trade it( must dump Gordon's contract in the scenario) for another "superstar" i.e. Kevin Love or DeMarcus Cousins.
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