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re: Demps - Asking AD to Move Mountains
Posted on 2/25/16 at 1:27 pm to NOLA Bronco
Posted on 2/25/16 at 1:27 pm to NOLA Bronco
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The other side to that is what Demps did, he sacrificed other aspects of the organization to accomplish it. Like others have said, drafting and developing players. You are playing with fire if you aren't keeping a steady flow of young talent on rookie contracts coming up through the depth chart and either groomed for bigger things or sold off to keep the machine going or even gain a bigger return on investment.
This x1000. Building a roster based solely on young veterans on mid to upper range deals and wholly neglecting drafting and player development means you have to hit. You have to be right on almost every major move because there is no flexibility without players on cheap rookie contracts stepping up or being available to acquire more assets/move your misses.
This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 1:29 pm
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 1:32 pm to ssgtiger
Since injuries are part of the game, you have to accept it. KD was injured almost their whole season, and so was our boy Jrue and our other contributor, Ryno. We earned that 8th seed, and OKC never made the Playoffs. I understand you are trying to prove me wrong, but you are talking what ifs and hypothetical situations. That's not reality. Last year we were a better team than OKC, injuries are part of it. This year they are better, we are also the team with the most injuries.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 1:41 pm to NOFOX
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This x1000. Building a roster based solely on young veterans on mid to upper range deals and wholly neglecting drafting and player development means you have to hit. You have to be right on almost every major move because there is no flexibility without players on cheap rookie contracts stepping up or being available to acquire more assets/move your misses.
Not to mention those guys you trade for, at least in the big deals like Jrue, Evans and Asik, they cost more then just money. You are acquiring them because you are projecting them to be better then their own teams are valuing them(who have had lots of time with them) and the rest of the league. So you end up giving up extra assets no one else in the market would of.
If you are wrong you just paid a higher price then anyone and will not ever recuperate the totality of what you gave up. And since they are 23-26 year olds, the market value drops because those teams that didn't value them as high now have their reservations somewhat confirmed and even more deeply question if those players ceiling is any higher then it currently is. We see that with Gordon and Asik and I suspect we will see it with Evans too.
We can play the injury game all we want but Demps made those moves expecting Evans to be the next Manu Ginoboli or James Harden. Jrue to be an elite PG in this league. Asik to be an elite defensive center with just enough offense to get by. Gordon to be the next great guard. And in all cases expected that at a minimum he would be able to recoup close to equal value if he missed on his projections. He was wrong.
He over-projected on every one of those guys(though Jrue might still prove his worth) and the result is a fairly inflexible roster with few silver linings.
This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 2/25/16 at 1:56 pm to htran90
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The realistic thinking in maxing Anderson or giving him a contract is that he continues to improve offensively and becomes a slightly-below average defender..
That's not realistic. He can't improve mobility and athleticism by taking deadlift selfies for instagram and getting paid more for it.
Anderson's problem is partly technical(he blows assignments) but more then that it is just genetics. He doesn't have the speed, agility, explosiveness, wingspan or strength to ever be a respectable defender at his position.
The best you can hope for is a mastermind like Thibs finding ways to work around limitations. But it will always be smoke and mirrors.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 2:22 pm to NOLA Bronco
True and I don't expect it to happen. Gordon and ryno just don't have the athleticism to be good defenders, they need a wing and center to cover their deficiencies and we just don't have both. They're role players who are at or near their peak.
Ryno has value, but it's gambling to max him to trade. Would Sacramento, Detroit, or Toronto give us anything come next year if he were to be on an extended max? His chances of regressing is easily possible, but his neck injury was a freak injury so I'm less worried about injury
Ryno has value, but it's gambling to max him to trade. Would Sacramento, Detroit, or Toronto give us anything come next year if he were to be on an extended max? His chances of regressing is easily possible, but his neck injury was a freak injury so I'm less worried about injury
Posted on 2/25/16 at 4:40 pm to 504ByrdGang
quote:Good God, no.
We would have a chance vs LAC and OKC Jrue Reke Q AD Asik Cole Gordon Ryan
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