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re: Davis/Asik/Ajinca vs. Gasol/Randolph/Koufos

Posted on 3/8/15 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

People really under value the shot creation aspect of Anderson's game. 




We do not under value his shot creation, its actually the only thing Anderson fans hold on to. No one is saying Anderson is bad at shooting or creating a shot. Majority of his criticism is the fact he has to have a great game everyttime to cancel out his sub par defense.

Ive said many times that if Anderson or even Babbit could work on their perimeter defense than all this Anti/Pro? Anderson feud be over
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 7:45 pm to
We've seen Davis or Ryno for like 5 mins at the SF spot all season. We don't contain the perimeter for crap anyways. It makes no sense to pigeon hole him into the 5 or 4 with this roster.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22797 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 7:49 pm to
Look I am not anti Ryan Anderson as he is one of my favorite members of the team. The problems comes when Ajinca has looked great as a backup and should be much cheaper to bring back next season.

Anderson is a very good player and I would expect him to valued throughout the league.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 8:01 pm to
I agree with you but there is the typical Monty inflexibility that doesn't allow us to potentially see if anyone can excel in an outside the box situation.
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 8:59 pm to
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Anderson is a very good player and I would expect him to valued throughout the league. 




I respectfully disagree, I wanna make McNamara proud lol. I dont have to be racist or homophobic to disagree with someone
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63495 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:07 pm to
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I dont have to be racist or homophobic to disagree with someone


What fun is that? Oh yeah, this isn't the Poli Board.

I do think Anderson has value. But I actually agree that Monty gives him too many minutes, although that may not have been the case as much prior to the acquisition of QPON, Cunningham, et al. His options were limited then.

Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:15 pm to
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Monty gives him too many minutes,


quote:

His options were limited then. 


I agree and I'm the last man standing on the Anderson bandwagon. Maybe Asik was hurt more than we knew. Maybe Monty just didn't trust Ajinca, for good reason to be fair. Though I do agree with SP; Monty tends to handcuff himself with a lack of imagination.

We did see a ton of AD as a 5 v small ball Boston. It didn't really work, but baby steps for Monty.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15176 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:17 pm to
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but there is the typical Monty inflexibility that doesn't allow us to potentially see if anyone can excel in an outside the box situation.



Anderson, Babbitt, and Ajinça haven't had chances to excel?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15176 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:20 pm to
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Maybe Monty just didn't trust Ajinca, for good reason to be fair.



Monty certainly wasn't picking up fouls for Ajinça
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:23 pm to
I admire your dedication to the ç in Ajinça. Took me a year to stop typing Anjinca.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:30 pm to
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I agree and I'm the last man standing on the Anderson bandwagon.


Watch your whore mouth
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:32 pm to


Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49512 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:33 pm to
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I agree and I'm the last man standing on the Anderson bandwagon.


I'm with you. Not saying Ryno is a GREAT player, but I think that next year, he will return to fringe 6th man of the year range. Monty needs to be smarter about who Ryno defends, and can't force the AD/Ryno frontcourt if the other team has a talented C.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63495 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 7:19 am to
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I admire your dedication to the ç in Ajinça. Took me a year to stop typing Anjinca.


Now that I've figured out how to post images, my nest task is to learn how to type the correct character for the "c" in . . . well, for now . . . Ajinca.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
9616 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 7:33 am to
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I'm the last man standing on the Anderson bandwagon


I think that most Pels fans are fans of Ryno, but what does that have to do with keeping him around at this point? The business facts point towards him being expendable...period.

That said, I have no doubt that he'll again be successful. He plays too hard not to. Imagine Ryno on the same team as Lebron! It would be sick.

Don't get me wrong here. I have really liked Ryan Anderson and everything that he's brought to New Orleans. And, replacing Ryno "the teamate" may be more difficult that I can really know. But, we can't ignore the writing on the wall.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:03 am to
That's fair and I get the argument. I just don't think he's as expendable as some Pels fans seem to think.

Despite a down year, he still pairs very well with Davis (tied with Davis/Gordon for the highest net rating of any 2 man pair among the core 6). The team has played well without him. They also have played well without Davis and Holiday. Ajinca has looked good for 3 weeks. Can he do it for 5 months?

If this were 2K, I'm moving one of the 3 guards first. But in reality Anderson is the most attractive trade option they have. I'm not opposed to moving him for the right piece(s). But I don't think they NEED to move him. I like this mix they have now.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61489 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:33 am to
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I don't think they NEED to move him.


I agree with this until we start losing games because we should be playing Asik or Ajinca more. I don't want to dump or sell low on Anderson, I'd rather keep him than do that, but I do question his fit, or rather Monty's over reliance on him. Hopefully Ajinca and Asik have earned enough trust in this stretch. Asik has saved a few games at the end and we have won a few thanks to Ajinca's offense.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 10:34 am
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:42 am to
I agree corn

I'd rather move EG in the summer for a 3+D SF and keep ryno.

Ryno could easily come back to being himself and his value would be much higher.

Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:44 am to
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but there is the typical Monty inflexibility that doesn't allow us to potentially see if anyone can excel in an outside the box situation.


quote:

Anderson, Babbitt, and Ajinça haven't had chances to excel?


Never said they haven't. I'm saying that it would be nice to see adjustments made that allow us to see them in different positions.

My only point was that Monty's system is allowing so much paint penetration from the perimeter as it is already. Anderson would provide good rebounding from the 3 spot and some length if he continues to allow AD to switch up top. Would it work? I don't know. But I'd like to find out.

Not to mention the benefit of having all that length on offense.
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