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re: Can the Pelicans become a top defensive team?

Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Spitting Venom
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:23 am to
You aren't making a bad point, but 80%? The average FG% around the rim for the entire league is 64%

Avg FG% for midrange is 41.7%
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:25 am to
Yea I know the numbers I was using weren't exact.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:52 am to
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One thing about blocking midrange shots is that they don't help a team become a top defensive team better than blocks at the rim because midrange shots are the worst shots in the league and shots at the rim are the best. One block of a dunk saves 2 points. On a midrange shot where the shooter shoots 40%, 1 block only saves .8 points so 1 block at the rim is as valuable as 2.5 blocks of a midrange shot. Just something to consider.



Shut the frick up and go away. You blow more than your mom and she's a cheap whore.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 11:55 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:05 pm to
Simple math, is simple.
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Shut the frick up and go away. You blow more than your mom and she's a cheap whore.



stop. keep this on topic.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:41 pm to
Yea the personal attacks don't affect me all they do is bring the threads off topic and reflect on the person talking about others posters family members.

It would unfortunate to be a guy that has to resort to personal attacks bc they can't make a semi intelligent response.
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:56 pm to
What happened to a block being a block? All that other shite doesn't count as long as the other team doesn't score.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:04 pm to
All blocks are not created equal. A block of a high percentage shot negates more points than a block of a low percentage shot.

If you're counting blocks to count blocks then yea they are all the same. If you are counting the impact that blocks have on points allowed then no all blocks aren't equal.
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:21 pm to
A block is a block. That's what I'm saying. All that other stuff shouldn't matter.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:32 pm to
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stop. keep this on topic. 



You can't fix stupid. Trying to have rational discussions with that frickwit is pointless, because he refuses to be rational and chooses to troll instead.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:35 pm to
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If you're counting blocks to count blocks then yea they are all the same. If you are counting the impact that blocks have on points allowed then no all blocks aren't equal.


You haven't accounted for the fact that ADs blocks usually result in the Pelicans retaining possession. Arguing an assumed average on the shots is stupid, as you can only assume an average result. Your argument is fundamentally flawed, as usual.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:38 pm to
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A block is a block. That's what I'm saying. All that other stuff shouldn't matter.



Blocks that Dwit doesn't get are far more effective than the ones AD does....
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:49 pm to
If you have numbers that show that those blocks are retained by pels more than other blocks we'll take those into consideration. But you don't have those numbers so your little rant does nothing to help your case.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:55 pm to
A block of a shot that has a 60% chance of going in saves 1.2 Pts and a block of a shot with 40% chance saves .8 Pts. Over time they add up. That is indisputable. Take the players names out of it and you have no argument.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:56 pm to
And you have no numbers to show actual shooting percentages by the actual players blocked on the actual spot on the floor from which AD blocked them. Chew on that, fat boy.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:57 pm to
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A block of a shot that has a 60% chance of going in saves 1.2 Pts and a block of a shot with 40% chance saves .8 Pts


You are making up those percentages, asshat
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:59 pm to
for these purposes the league averages will work just fine. I was making a general point about the effect of blocks at the rim vs midrange. Davis was never mentioned by me in this thread. Quite a few posters agreed with me.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:00 pm to
League average for shots at the rim vs midrange shots. We are talkkng averages here. Stop taking it personally.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:03 pm to
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League average for shots at the rim vs midrange shots. We are talkkng averages here.


I haven't seen him block any of this League Average's shots. Who does League Average play for, anyway?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:05 pm to
You are mistaking by posts for a shot at Davis when they are only an analysis of the value of a blocked shot depending on distance from the rim based on league wide shooting percentages. I don't know or care how many of Davis blocks are from midrange.
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