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Bulls are our best trade partner for Jrue.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 8:43 am
Posted on 12/30/16 at 8:43 am
Bulls are in playoff hunt, have tons of assets, and need a PG that can shoot the 3. There's not many of those on the market.
They will look to move Rondo. He has zero trade value in the league but is on an expiring contract ($3M team buyout for next year).
So we send Jrue, take Rondo off their hands. What do wep get back?
I'd think one or two of:
- 2017 Top 10 protected Sacramento pick (good chance to hit )
-Bobby Portis
-Denzel Valentine
That's potentially good assets for an expiring Jrue.
They will look to move Rondo. He has zero trade value in the league but is on an expiring contract ($3M team buyout for next year).
So we send Jrue, take Rondo off their hands. What do wep get back?
I'd think one or two of:
- 2017 Top 10 protected Sacramento pick (good chance to hit )
-Bobby Portis
-Denzel Valentine
That's potentially good assets for an expiring Jrue.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:02 am to Toula
If we trade Jrue for Rondo I will never watch a pelican game again. I don't care if we get their next three firsts. It's a puss move to trade like that.
Besides son we are in contention too
Besides son we are in contention too
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:10 am to Toula
I wouldnt mind 2 of those, I prefer to shoot for the playoffs and resign Jrue this offseason
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:10 am to whatiknowsofar
The worst thing a small market team can do is let expiring players with value walk for nothing. See EG and Ryno.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:15 am to Toula
Not sure why Chicago would part with that much but I'd do that in a heartbeat.
I'd be happy with just the pick, but to throw in a PG that only wants to give the ball to AD and our shooters, as well as another young prospect, for an expiring Jrue that wont be here next year. Sign me up.
I'd be happy with just the pick, but to throw in a PG that only wants to give the ball to AD and our shooters, as well as another young prospect, for an expiring Jrue that wont be here next year. Sign me up.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:38 am to Toula
I'm all for not resigning Jrue. We've seen that a core of him and AD isn't moving the needle enough to make noise in the west.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:39 am to WB504
We've seen that he can't stay healthy here.
and we've seen that we are better with Tyreke running the point than Jrue running the point.
and we've seen that we are better with Tyreke running the point than Jrue running the point.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:44 am to TeddyPadillac
The pick is a wild card. If it lands in top 10, it flips to a 2nd IIRC.
Bulls desperately need a spacing PG. Not many teams have one to trade (Dragic fits).
If resigning Jrue isn't an option, the pick and Portis/Valentine is a nice coup.
Bulls desperately need a spacing PG. Not many teams have one to trade (Dragic fits).
If resigning Jrue isn't an option, the pick and Portis/Valentine is a nice coup.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:45 am to TeddyPadillac
Tyreke is effective running the P&R, but that's not what Gentry wants to do. The board turning on Tyreke like it has has been more about Gentry than Tyreke.
If I did the Bulls trade I'd turn it into a 3 teamer and get Dragic to replace Holiday. You probably have to let Miami get the Sac pick and you just get Portis or Valentine, but I'd try to sell Miami on our Philly 2nd and Portis and we keep the Sac pick.
If I did the Bulls trade I'd turn it into a 3 teamer and get Dragic to replace Holiday. You probably have to let Miami get the Sac pick and you just get Portis or Valentine, but I'd try to sell Miami on our Philly 2nd and Portis and we keep the Sac pick.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:09 am to Toula
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If resigning Jrue isn't an option
Short of CP3 walking from the Clippers, which I don't see happening with the new rules CP3 hand wrote into the CBA, I just don't see a team Holiday would leave us for assuming we match money/years. The question isn't whether the Pels can resign Holiday IMO, it's whether Demps gets fired and his replacement would be willing to pay market value for him.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:14 am to TigerinATL
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The board turning on Tyreke like it has has been more about Gentry than Tyreke.
Evans is a good player. he's a good ball handler. yet, if he's your primary playmaker, your ceiling is capped as a 6-8 seed.
think of Evans as a souped up Evan Turner
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If I did the Bulls trade I'd turn it into a 3 teamer and get Dragic to replace Holiday. You probably have to let Miami get the Sac pick and you just get Portis or Valentine, but I'd try to sell Miami on our Philly 2nd and Portis and we keep the Sac pick.
that would be a solid move. i'd prefer to take Portis/Valentine over the Sacramento pick. i have faith the Kings will implode spectacularly and keep the pick
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 11:17 am
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:34 am to corndeaux
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Evans is a good player. he's a good ball handler. yet, if he's your primary playmaker, your ceiling is capped as a 6-8 seed.
I really would have loved to see what Thibs could have done with him, but yeah, he'd just be a stopgap, but if you're going to move Holiday I think you need a better plan for replacing him than Frazier and a rookie.
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i have faith the Kings will implode spectacularly and keep the pick
True, they are only a few losses out of keeping the pick now and the odds are good they'll trade Rudy Gay at some point and get worse.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:15 pm to TigerinATL
Btw, Jrue allows .32 points per possession and 20% from the field when it comes to iso d. That leads the league.
But please keep telling me that it's ok to trade away our second best player while we are still in contention.
But please keep telling me that it's ok to trade away our second best player while we are still in contention.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:29 pm to whatiknowsofar
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But please keep telling me that it's ok to trade away our second best player while we are still in contention.
just b/c he's our 2nd best player doesn't make him our savior, or worthy of $20+ million a year long term contract. He needs to be our 2A or 2B or 3rd best player if we want to get better and contend in the playoffs. With Jrue as our 2nd best player we are no better than a 7 or 8 seed at best, and that's assuming he and AD dont' miss 20+ games each.
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Btw, Jrue allows .32 points per possession and 20% from the field when it comes to iso d. That leads the league.
We started the season out pretty shitty from the defensive side of the ball, but we've been moving our way up the stat boards on that end. But i guess we really need Asik in there to help with that some more
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:58 pm to TigerinATL
Kings will most likely get better if/when they trade Gay for a couple pieces.
Teams post Gay have track record of improving too
Teams post Gay have track record of improving too
Posted on 12/30/16 at 4:11 pm to Toula
No, the worst thing we can do is trade for a guy like Rondo who has never gotten along with any coach he's had.
Id rather take my chances on not being able to re-sign him than trade for that lunatic.
Take Rondo out of that deal.
Id rather take my chances on not being able to re-sign him than trade for that lunatic.
Take Rondo out of that deal.
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 12/30/16 at 5:30 pm to Toula
Do NOT want Rondo anywhere near this team.
I would rather chase after Rubio, at least he has his head on straight. They bring the same offensive capability with rubio being a better defender while rondo being a better rebounder.
I would rather chase after Rubio, at least he has his head on straight. They bring the same offensive capability with rubio being a better defender while rondo being a better rebounder.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 6:30 pm to htran90
For all we bitch about Ajinca/Hill/Asik deals the fact Demps got NOTHING for Ryno/Gordon last year may in fact be a bigger indictment of his standing in the league. I wonder if he's a running joke to the other GMs.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:04 pm to htran90
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Take Rondo out of that deal.
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Do NOT want Rondo anywhere near this team.
Have to take on Rondo for a couple months to get the assets. That's the cost of doing business.
Are we certain Jrue will even resign with the Pels? We could have extended him this summer if both parties were confident of the fit long-term.
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