re: Buddy Hield and his progression

We're a year removed from a magical NCAA season and an offseason where this guy was torching team records in workouts.

The fallacy in your argument is the pure lack of ball handlers in your scenario available on this team. Who would you say, if they had to go one on one and break a player down, is better than Buddy on this team? Jrue/Evans/Davis/MAYBE Frazier who's a cerebral probe player and not a blow by you type.

Yeah, Buddy can improve on handles and more than that, learning to finish at the rim/draw fouls. Dudes a marginal at best NBA player right now, actually just bad without the rookie scale. I'd like to at least see him with a longer leash to see if it's the NBA level or him in his own head. Empower him. Jesus. This is a guy who was getting doubled in the tourney and almost single handedly willing his team to a Final 4. He's not nearly the disaster you paint him to be as a ball handler.

ETA: this is where the Murray argument comes in for me. Has nothing to do with raw skills. It has to do with him being moldable. You draft Buddy to put the ball in the damn basket. Let him grow naturally with the NBA game. Not try to break the kid down to square 1 and build it back up. Why do that to a runaway Naismith winner putting up just incredible splits in college despite most teams' strategy for Okie being "STOP BUDDY". Go with the much younger kid with nice raw splits himself if that's your goal.

I'm also intentionally staying away from your Crawford bait. At no point did I equate their handles or skill level. You're putting words in my mouth to frame my argument as moronic. I said I wanted him to have more autonomy with the 2nd unit and be more of a focal point. Games without Evans make particular sense to me.

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Buddy is a rookie and people are hugely overreacting

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There is truth here but this fanbase is generally tired of these throwaway seasons with nothing to show. Buddy's regressed. Team's regressed. Diallo is in D-League. Demps controls our pick so we're on the edge of our seats waiting for him to f*** it up. Loomis admitted he doesn't GAF. It's a joke. This is Shinn era bad minus the green light to spend money...very poorly thank you Dell. It'd be nice to either 1) have competent people making decisions and playing after 82 or 2) have at bare minimum a coach who can play and experiment for next year without worrying about his job.

My parents are getting up in age. We have good seats in balcony. It's what I do with them to spend time with them as their son. I'd sure like them to get rewarded with some competitive fricking basketball.

ETA: shite I'd take rookies and guys to root for playing meaningless competitive bball. The MT5 and DC year was the most fun we've had outside of 07-08. Who was the coach that year? Jeff fricking Bower. What did he do? Nothing. Let ballers be ballers. I have witnessed first hand that empowering rookies has helped them develop. And Hield is Thornton on steroids.

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i get the impulse to want more. but what he did in college is irrelevant now. it doesnt always translate. forcing him to do things he hasn't shown much success with at the NBA level (yet) doesnt feel very natural to me.

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I framed the rationale in a later post. If we had proven quality coaching I'd be more inclined to trust the process. We don't so I'd rather jumpstart Hield at this level by putting him in roles he's comfortable in AS WELL as roles he's uncomfortable in. You saw it last game with him running the show in spurts. He needs very little room to get a comfortable shot off using screens. He's capable of pumping and stepping into the midrange. Buddy is a weird case. If you pay attention (I'm sure you've noticed this as well), you can almost tell the second it leaves his hand if it's going in. He's either pushing and leaning into the shot or relaxed and shooting normally. It's kind of weird you'd expect a player to lean back for extra space. I'm glad he hasn't developed that habit.

I've had enough of buddy hield. He is a garbage player and now hes a fig for grabbing cousins nuts. We should sell now while he still has a glimpse of value. absolutely garbage.

That post was almost as garbage as your profile pic

Even if Buddy was actually gay why would you care? It has absolutely zero effect on your life. That should be the last thing you worry about.

Stfu

That is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
still trying to grab nuts , and Ajinca's creeping arse in the back ground looks like Charlie Murphy from the Real World skit on Chappelle.

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Great idea to post this picture after a loss to the Kings. Team is just way too lax all the time. This crap wouldn't fly with a good coach.

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Fans seem to think that you're supposed to be pissed off and brooding for a significant amount of time after a loss, yet most coaches talk about moving on to get ready for the next game. Shenanigans after a game = moving on. Shenanigans before a game = maybe you're not as serious as you should be.