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Posted on 4/24/15 at 6:06 am to quail man
I know that Asik seems like the answer, but I don't think it would have mattered.
The Warriors would have switched him onto Curry or Thompson with PnR after PnR and he would have been out of the paint anyway. I doubt Kerr goes back to Bogut when they're cooking without him. Maybe that means Davis can grab more boards, but he was getting pushed all over the court down the stretch.
I said it before the series: the entire team needs to rebound v the Warriors. 3PA make OREB unpredictable. The problem for the Pelicans is that they only have 2 guys that can rebound on the entire roster and they don't have the size/versatility to match up with that small Warriors lineup. The guards, minus Holiday, were fairly bad last night.
Just as big a problem to me was the way the offense froze down the stretch. 7 points over the final 14 possessions will lose a playoff game every single time. That they couldn't generate good offense with Bogut out is maddening.
ETA: Kerr deserves much credit for having his bigger and better athletes crashing the glass in the 4th.
The Warriors would have switched him onto Curry or Thompson with PnR after PnR and he would have been out of the paint anyway. I doubt Kerr goes back to Bogut when they're cooking without him. Maybe that means Davis can grab more boards, but he was getting pushed all over the court down the stretch.
I said it before the series: the entire team needs to rebound v the Warriors. 3PA make OREB unpredictable. The problem for the Pelicans is that they only have 2 guys that can rebound on the entire roster and they don't have the size/versatility to match up with that small Warriors lineup. The guards, minus Holiday, were fairly bad last night.
Just as big a problem to me was the way the offense froze down the stretch. 7 points over the final 14 possessions will lose a playoff game every single time. That they couldn't generate good offense with Bogut out is maddening.
ETA: Kerr deserves much credit for having his bigger and better athletes crashing the glass in the 4th.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 6:10 am
Posted on 4/24/15 at 6:25 am to quail man
Asik layed in OT and guess what happened, offensive fricking rebounds
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:26 am to sma19
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Yeah what the frick was up with that?!? Why wouldn't you want to rest him late in the 3rd and have him just play the whole 4th?
20 pt lead bub. That's why
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:43 am to Hank Marducas
If we are up by 20 it's about sustaining the lead. When they started to get the tacky fouls and offensive rebounds you have to put a better rebounding unit out there. On top of it all why were we shooting so early in the shot clock?
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:30 am to chrisharrisbaby
Even w a 20 point lead, we could've traded 2 points for their 3 every time and been fine. Like someone said, AD was gassed, it was noticeable in the 3rd. We needed him to be in attack mode like he was in the 1st.
You could tell draymond green just wanted all those offensive boards more than we did. Barnes played his root, Spieghts etc. that team is so fricking good. They stick to a game plan and execute it regardless of score. Players know their role. Hopefully we learn from them bc that's what we need to be
You could tell draymond green just wanted all those offensive boards more than we did. Barnes played his root, Spieghts etc. that team is so fricking good. They stick to a game plan and execute it regardless of score. Players know their role. Hopefully we learn from them bc that's what we need to be
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:05 am to quail man
quote:Well, it does matter who he guards.
when they bleed it down to 8 or 10 and they are raping you on the glass, you put him back in. doesn't matter who he fricking guards. you put him in to stop them from second chance points
And also, doing that greatly, greatly reduces how well AD will play on the offensive end.
We've been so much better in this series with Asik off the court vs on, and AD has gone off when Asik is out, and is doing horrible offensively when he's in.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:10 am to quail man
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but yeah, Asik sucks.
confirmed by his liability to be on the court in the 4th.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:24 am to quail man
Asik was a major liability last night! 1 pt..5 boards....no boxing out, no hustle etc...that is the one thing that I agree Monty did right!!!!!
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:24 am to quail man
Asik was a major liability last night! 1 pt..5 boards....no boxing out, no hustle etc...that is the one thing that I agree Monty did right!!!!!
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:34 am to quail man
Asik should have played the 4th. I was saying it the whole time.
You're up by 15. You're trying to limit the chances of a comeback by giving the other team the minimum amount of opportunities possible.
Bringing him in for overtime was kind of silly, too. At that point, you knew they were going to have time to slow things down, put him in pick and rolls, and put our defense at a disadvantage. And they did that almost every possession of overtime.
Monty just fricked this up as hard as he possibly could.
You're up by 15. You're trying to limit the chances of a comeback by giving the other team the minimum amount of opportunities possible.
Bringing him in for overtime was kind of silly, too. At that point, you knew they were going to have time to slow things down, put him in pick and rolls, and put our defense at a disadvantage. And they did that almost every possession of overtime.
Monty just fricked this up as hard as he possibly could.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:01 am to UNO
quote:And guarded Draymond Green?
Asik should have played the 4th. I was saying it the whole time
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:12 am to quail man
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and 16 second chance points. pels had 2. but yeah, Asik sucks.
Man, I watched a flat footed Asik get abused for 2 put backs before he got pulled. He did squat last night and if you think pulling him was the reason we lost you are an idiot.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:14 am to RileyTime
quote:If we pulled Ryno and then the offense dried up because that's what it does when Asik is in, this board would be in one hell of an uproar because we pulled teh guy with the hot hand for the guy who's been just awful in this series.
Man, I watched a flat footed Asik get abused for 2 put backs before he got pulled. He did squat last night and if you think pulling him was the reason we lost you are an idiot.
We don't pull Ryno, the same people still complain.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:14 am to Merlin08
Limited points in the paint. Force them to take shots and have a better chance of rebounding. That was missed in the 4th.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:20 am to quail man
Asik couldnt come in because of the personnel, mainly. I know that has already been said.
But we had Davis on the floor, Anderson, and I believe Cunningham. It's not like we had a bunch of midgets compared to them. Rebounding is an effort thing, and really GSW proved that they wanted it more during that stretch.
It's a microcosm of Williams as a coach. He doesn't get the most out of our players. The same way we lost to too many inferior teams this year. He has trouble getting our guys to play up their ability when the game is in hand, or its a game we should win. Lacking killer instinct, big time.
I know teams make runs, that is just how the NBA is. But with the way we played last night, we should have been able to withstand that run, even if we would have just barely eeked out the win.
Once the game gets compressed into those last 4-5 minutes, coaching really comes thru, and Monty routinely fails. Same thing happened in game 2. All of a sudden our offense turns into an over 40 church league demonstration. When the going gets tough, we look clueless, and that reflects the coach.
But we had Davis on the floor, Anderson, and I believe Cunningham. It's not like we had a bunch of midgets compared to them. Rebounding is an effort thing, and really GSW proved that they wanted it more during that stretch.
It's a microcosm of Williams as a coach. He doesn't get the most out of our players. The same way we lost to too many inferior teams this year. He has trouble getting our guys to play up their ability when the game is in hand, or its a game we should win. Lacking killer instinct, big time.
I know teams make runs, that is just how the NBA is. But with the way we played last night, we should have been able to withstand that run, even if we would have just barely eeked out the win.
Once the game gets compressed into those last 4-5 minutes, coaching really comes thru, and Monty routinely fails. Same thing happened in game 2. All of a sudden our offense turns into an over 40 church league demonstration. When the going gets tough, we look clueless, and that reflects the coach.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:21 am to shel311
But you have to know the situation and what we're missing. Up 20 and giving up way too many second chance points. We need our big guy on the court. It's a much tougher decision to make than we make it out to be, but that's where you put your trust in your head coach. Did he make the right call keeping Asik on the bench? We'll never know, but I like our chances with him on the court limiting their second chance opportunities.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:26 am to Hank Marducas
1 they prob would have hacked Asik
2 it all happened so quick. It wasn't like it was a progressive thing. They got a bunch of rebounds in a quick flurry and next thing you know the lead was to 6. That really wasn't the time to put Asik in, imo. With the way our offense had played up until that point, I'm pretty sure that Monty's mindset was that we will answer, and that they didnt have enough time in the game to make a comeback if we did that.
2 it all happened so quick. It wasn't like it was a progressive thing. They got a bunch of rebounds in a quick flurry and next thing you know the lead was to 6. That really wasn't the time to put Asik in, imo. With the way our offense had played up until that point, I'm pretty sure that Monty's mindset was that we will answer, and that they didnt have enough time in the game to make a comeback if we did that.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:30 am to Hank Marducas
quote:Again, you like ourchances with Asik guarding Draymond Green? It would either be layups or wide open 3s the entire 4th quarter.
But you have to know the situation and what we're missing. Up 20 and giving up way too many second chance points. We need our big guy on the court. It's a much tougher decision to make than we make it out to be, but that's where you put your trust in your head coach. Did he make the right call keeping Asik on the bench? We'll never know, but I like our chances with him on the court limiting their second chance opportunities.
And while I know in hindsight we stunk offensively, we have been pitiful on offense with Asik in the game in this series, especially AD, but AD has been out of this world type good with Asik out. Hindsight.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:38 am to quail man
He certainly should have been put in sooner in the 4th.
He did not have zero he did come in for a spell during the 4th
But them Oboards were what got GS back in the game.
He did not have zero he did come in for a spell during the 4th
But them Oboards were what got GS back in the game.
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