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9th game AD leaves early due to injury
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:09 am
Is AD soft?
Is AD still growing into his enormous frame?
Is AD fouled harder than most bigs due to his style of play?
What ever it may be, that's a lot of games that could have been Ws...
Is AD still growing into his enormous frame?
Is AD fouled harder than most bigs due to his style of play?
What ever it may be, that's a lot of games that could have been Ws...
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:13 am to jptiger2009
"Is AD soft"
Pretty much, dudes injury prone for sure. It's a physical game, and if he can't overcome it during the regular seasons he's not going to be ready for the drastic difference in physical play during the post season.
Pretty much, dudes injury prone for sure. It's a physical game, and if he can't overcome it during the regular seasons he's not going to be ready for the drastic difference in physical play during the post season.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:13 am to jptiger2009
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Is AD soft?
AD is 3 ply at least
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:14 am to jptiger2009
sometimes he's to aggressive.
like yesterday he shouldn't have tried to dunk from that far away over a shot blocking center.
like yesterday he shouldn't have tried to dunk from that far away over a shot blocking center.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:18 am to hassan101
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sometimes he's to aggressive. like yesterday he shouldn't have tried to dunk from that far away over a shot blocking center.
AD plays with little regard for his health. It's something he really needs to change. He can be aggressive and still know the value of a "business decision". He's young, so hopefully this comes as he matures. He shouldn't be diving into the stands, going to the floor so much, or dunking at awkward angles against bigger guys.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:56 am to NOFOX
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. He shouldn't be diving into the stands, going to the floor so much, or dunking at awkward angles against bigger guys.
What the frick is wrong with you guys?
He's not a pussy. that's not a bad thing.
You want him to shoot a floater instead of trying to posterize someone? who the frick wants to do that? That's like saying "hey don't go sky diving Billy, let's go watch the orchestra in City Park today instead"
YOLO, so have fun and don't be a pussy your whole life.
shite happens. The thing about todays NBA, is that there are no consequences for doing what Turner did, even though i'm sure he didn't do that with any intent to hurt him. Regardless, had Pistons Rodman done that to MJ, then the next time they play Horace Grant is putting a hard foul on Isiah next time he comes to the hole. There's no retaliation in the NBA today. Still see it in baseball, even see it in football still with all their safety crap and penalties. It's not just a sign that you're team isn't backing down, it's a sign from the rest of the players not named AD, that they have AD's back no matter what.
That is one thing that has pissed me off to this day when the Nuggets kicked the crap out of CP3 in that last playoff game, and the rest of the Hornets just laid on their back and took it and did nothing about it.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:37 am to TeddyPadillac
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You want him to shoot a floater instead of trying to posterize someone?
I was wondering why he didn't try to dunk with 2 hands on the play he got injured on. On the one hand he does protect the ball with a single handed dunk, so I can understand the instinct to do it, but dunks by above the rim players are rarely defended without a foul. Go up with 2 hands and it's probably a 3 point play and AD finishes the game.
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the next time they play Horace Grant is putting a hard foul on Isiah next time he comes to the hole.
That's part of this team's problem, they are soft as a whole, and I mean mama's boy getting bullied in the playground soft, not soft in the context the OP is meaning. If you get physical they usually don't handle it very well.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:58 am to TeddyPadillac
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What the frick is wrong with you guys?
He's not a pussy. that's not a bad thing.
Missing 10+ games each and every year is a bad thing.
Being aggressive is necessary, but so is being smart in protecting himself. He needs to learn how to play without subjecting himself to unecessary abuse and injury.
Yes I want him to shoot a floater over Myles Turner or pump fake and draw the foul while staying mostly on your feet, stay in the game and win instead of trying to posterize a 6'11" 250+lbs guy and missing the rest of the game (probably more). Posterize guards, guys you can absorb the contact and not go down hard.
AD would be just as injured playing with Horace Grant. He puts himself in bad situations that are going to get a big guy injured. Turner's foul wasn't anything extraordinary. Ordinary hard foul. He played the ball and collieded with AD. Bad shite happens when you leave your feet and collide with a 6'11" 250lb person. A later hard foul on Turner later wouldn't change that play.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:03 am to NOFOX
Shitty dunk was shitty. But getting shoved into the stands in NYC. Come the frick on. Y'all are acting like he's missing time for fricking hang nails.
He had a torn labrum, and last night he came down hard as frick on his tailbone and his elbow. Cut him a little slack. Some of y'all act like unless it's a gun shot wound it's not serious. Seriously... Knock that shite off. Blame the coaches for not better teaching him to protect himself and the medical staff for not better evaluating his injuries and his workout issues.
But do some of y'all even hear yourselves?
He had a torn labrum, and last night he came down hard as frick on his tailbone and his elbow. Cut him a little slack. Some of y'all act like unless it's a gun shot wound it's not serious. Seriously... Knock that shite off. Blame the coaches for not better teaching him to protect himself and the medical staff for not better evaluating his injuries and his workout issues.
But do some of y'all even hear yourselves?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:03 am to NOFOX
Considering his usage went up considerably, no one should be surprised that he gets beat up and nicked up. I'm actually surprised he's been as healthy as he has with his usage.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:22 am to NOFOX
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Being aggressive is necessary, but so is being smart in protecting himself. He needs to learn how to play without subjecting himself to unecessary abuse and injury.
I get all of that, but this is basketball, not ping pong. It's a rough sport.
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A later hard foul on Turner later wouldn't change that play
No it wouldn't, but you didn't seem to get the point I was making. It's about having your superstars back, and letting other teams know that if you do something to him, we will retaliate back at your best player. When AD's teammates don't have his back, next time he needs to be aggressive and help the team out, he won't. He'll be thinking about AD, not the team. When AD knows his guys have his back, he'll make that extra aggressive play to help the team out. This is exactly what happened with CP3 in that Nuggets series. He's busting has arse and his teammates could care less while he's getting raped by Nuggets defenders. They weren't even helping him off the floor when he'd get knocked down. CP3 missed 6 games the previous 2 years. After that series, he missed the beginning of the next season, a good chunk in the middle, and then some more towards the end, for a total of 37 games missed. The next year he demands a trade. I dont' blame him for not wanting to play here with the dumbass's running the team, the idiot coaching carousel, and teammates that didn't always have his back on the court.
That CP3 path is looking more and more like AD's path.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:25 am to chesty
whatever the cause for it is, it's a problem when he misses so many games.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:52 am to chesty
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Shitty dunk was shitty. But getting shoved into the stands in NYC. Come the frick on. Y'all are acting like he's missing time for fricking hang nails.
I think he misses games due to serious injuries. I do never argued that AD is soft. I just think he sustains a high amount of nicks and injuries because he makes stupid plays for a big and goes to the ground too much. I cringe at least 5 times a game where AD dives for a ball or takes a fall. He hits the floor a tremendous amount for a big.
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Blame the coaches for not better teaching him to protect himself and the medical staff for not better evaluating his injuries and his workout issues.
I completely agree. My whole point is that he needs to learn how to remain aggressive, but also play smarter to preserve himself. Don't dive into the stands, don't try to posterize guys bigger than you when you can draw the foul, learn to stay on your feet. He's been here so long, its easy to forget that he is still only 23. I am hoping that he learns to better protect himself as he matures.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:01 pm to TeddyPadillac
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No it wouldn't, but you didn't seem to get the point I was making. It's about having your superstars back, and letting other teams know that if you do something to him, we will retaliate back at your best player. When AD's teammates don't have his back, next time he needs to be aggressive and help the team out, he won't. He'll be thinking about AD, not the team. When AD knows his guys have his back, he'll make that extra aggressive play to help the team out.
AD making the extra aggressive plays gets him hurt. I do think Solo or DC needed to put one on Porzingis for that bullshite from O'Quinn. You can't let that shite go. They didn't even get in O'Quinn's face after. I don't feel the same about Myles Turner. It was just a hard play between two bigs at the rim. AD just left his feet and went down awkward. Turner was playing the ball.
The retaliation thing works both ways also. If our guys hard foul someone on the opposite team, they will hunt for AD.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:19 pm to NOFOX
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The retaliation thing works both ways also. If our guys hard foul someone on the opposite team, they will hunt for AD.
We don't have an enforcer on our team that would do that to the opposing teams best player, so no need to worry about us doing that first.
Yesterday lebron flails all over the place after the foul from draymond and Jefferson immediately gets in his face. I agree the Turner foul wasn't malicious, just a good hard foul. The OQuinn foul was malicious and he had been being overly aggressive with AD the whole game, and not a single Pelican did a thing about it.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:54 pm to TeddyPadillac
One can say he's doing the nitty gritty like a guard would do.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:11 pm to MrPel
quote:lol no.
"Is AD soft"
Pretty much
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:54 pm to shel311
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Justin Verrier ?@JustinVerrier 13 minutes ago
Anthony Davis is listed as questionable for tomorrow's home gam vs. Orlando with a right hip contusion and a left thumb sprain.
We've seen him take falls like this before, I think he misses the rest of the week so he's ready for Cleveland in the Blender.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:10 pm to TigerinATL
Y'all need to decide... tank or playoffs. Might as well let our other guys get plenty of time to figure out how to play together before this onslaught v Cavs/ OKC / wizards next week
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