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2nd Rounder Top 5
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:13 pm
I, more than most, am pessimistic about 2nd rounders. The odds say it is unlikely the Pels even get a rotation guy with either of their two picks. That said, there are a few guys I am hoping will be there. Here are my top 5 guys that could go in the 2nd. What are yours?
1. Denzel Valentine - I don't care if he only plays 4-5 years. I will take him for 4 years over any guy likely to be there for 10
2. Robert Carter - I think this is a great guy to put next to AD. Big, Beefy guy who can defend most C's or stretch 4's/5's and also hit the jumper
3. Stephen Zimmerman - Another big who fits my criteria of what I want next to AD
4. Paul Zipser - Can be a rotation player as soon as next year, and for the next 10 years. A better Joe Ingles IMO
5. Patrick McCaw - 15 pounds of muscle away from being a guy who would have been taken in the top 15
1. Denzel Valentine - I don't care if he only plays 4-5 years. I will take him for 4 years over any guy likely to be there for 10
2. Robert Carter - I think this is a great guy to put next to AD. Big, Beefy guy who can defend most C's or stretch 4's/5's and also hit the jumper
3. Stephen Zimmerman - Another big who fits my criteria of what I want next to AD
4. Paul Zipser - Can be a rotation player as soon as next year, and for the next 10 years. A better Joe Ingles IMO
5. Patrick McCaw - 15 pounds of muscle away from being a guy who would have been taken in the top 15
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 2:31 pm
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:22 pm to Crewz
Valentine would be the perfect pick but I don't think he lasts until our 2nd
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:23 pm to Crewz
No chance Valentine is there
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:24 pm to ssgtiger
Unlikely? Maybe, but with the knee issues it's possible.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:25 pm to Crewz
Fans love to talk about 2nd rounders but they are generally worthless.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:30 pm to Fun Bunch
I agree that the numbers say they are likely to amount to nothing. I just want to get an idea to who people like BEFORE Thursday
Because I know how human beings work. Whoever we take will be loved by 90% of fans by August. People will pass round articles praising the guy and his upside, back story, blah blah, blah
So I want to know who people like NOW, before they talk themselves into who we actually pick
Because I know how human beings work. Whoever we take will be loved by 90% of fans by August. People will pass round articles praising the guy and his upside, back story, blah blah, blah
So I want to know who people like NOW, before they talk themselves into who we actually pick
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:32 pm to Crewz
And for those who say "NO way Valentine is there," you would have said the same thing about Dejuan Blair two days before that draft. I have a hard time believing a team will spend a 1st rounder on a guy if he is projected to have a 4-5 year career. Then, the early 2nd round is usually reserved for super high upside and/or draft and stash guys
It's possible.
It's possible.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:33 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Fans love to talk about 2nd rounders but they are generally worthless.
Draymond Green, Hassan Whiteside, DeAndre Jordan, Paul Millsap, Marc Gasol, and Isaiah Thomas all say hi
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:34 pm to Crewz
Only person I know who'll be a 2nd is Devin Williams. So of course him.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:38 pm to JayJay2
I don't know so much names but I can tell you what I want out of it...
I'd like to draft and stash a big with one of the two picks and then draft another wing with the other (assuming we don't use either or both in trades to move up or to move someone else - here's hoping Tyreke is dealt)...
I'd like to draft and stash a big with one of the two picks and then draft another wing with the other (assuming we don't use either or both in trades to move up or to move someone else - here's hoping Tyreke is dealt)...
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:40 pm to BigDawg0420
That's why he said 'generally', not 'always' worthless
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:43 pm to Crewz
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That's why he said 'generally', not 'always' worthless
Yeah I'm just pointing out that discussing potential second round picks isn't "always" worthless
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:46 pm to Crewz
Valentine would be incredibly lucky and I would love it. I'm A big fan of his passing abilities and think AD would benefit a lot.
Gary Payton II I like a lot, I think he can be a good bench type PG/wing defender like a Delly or Beverly type of player.
I'd take Plumlee too, all his brothers are rotation bigs in the league, can't hurt to take a flyer on the family gene pool. We could use a cheap high energy center.
Gary Payton II I like a lot, I think he can be a good bench type PG/wing defender like a Delly or Beverly type of player.
I'd take Plumlee too, all his brothers are rotation bigs in the league, can't hurt to take a flyer on the family gene pool. We could use a cheap high energy center.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:47 pm to BigDawg0420
2nd rd are lottery tickets. We have 2 in range of the 1st round. I'm excited
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:48 pm to BigDawg0420
Of course not. But I do think expectations should be tempered as well. Again, history says that if even one of these guys become a 7th or 8th man, that would be better than the norm. Yet, I can guarantee you that by August, there will be several posters on this board listing these guys as rotation players and/or getting excited about their long term potential as possible future starters
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:59 pm to Crewz
I don't think Pels Talk is that optimistic
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:59 pm to Crewz
Stephen Zimmerman Malcolm brogdon and Gary payton ll and Ben bentl are my favorite guys but I agree if Valentine is there I'm taking him over anybody else
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:01 pm to Crewz
This isn't pelicans report. Vast, vast majority of posters wouldn't pencil in a 2nd rounder as a starter or role player.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:09 pm to NOFOX
I will save this. I guarantee a fair amount of people here will be excited about one or both of these kids in August/September
If not, you are all robots because human beings accept the narratives that benefit them. We shall see
But that's beyond the point- Anybody else want to list the guys you like?!?
If not, you are all robots because human beings accept the narratives that benefit them. We shall see
But that's beyond the point- Anybody else want to list the guys you like?!?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:14 pm to Crewz
Diamond Stone
Chieck Diello if he unlikely slides
Chinanu Onuaku
Chieck Diello if he unlikely slides
Chinanu Onuaku
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