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re: Why is there no "great" music anymore?
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:30 pm to I Love Bama
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:30 pm to I Love Bama
quote:yup
This question is asked every generation.
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:32 pm to el Gaucho
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i'm kinda a country guy though
Why are we even discussing music then????
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Could be and I know you are a fan but these bands don't have the widespread appeal that most of yesterdays greats have.
the reason the bands of yesterday had widespread appeal is because the only places you could hear music was on the radio, at your local bar, or on your record player. and back then it used to cost a ton to get the record recorded and distributed so if it was gonna sell any copies you were getting radio play
there will never be a band that captures the whole world again like those great bands did simply because people have way more choice of what they wanna listen to. i'm not saying a band has to be mega popular to be good. i'm saying that i don't think there are any bands as good as those way back when bands anymore
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Could be and I know you are a fan but these bands don't have the widespread appeal that most of yesterdays greats have.
I think you would have to redefine great (in a musical/historical sense) but who knows how people will view todays bands decades from now.
It was easy to be different, influential 40 years ago but so much music has been written, performed that nothing really stands out anymore.
All true however NO ONE has the widespread appeal that yesterdays greats have. The choices are too broad now. Everyone has their own niche that they love.
Redifining great will be a necessity for any of todays bands to make it.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:33 pm to el Gaucho
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i love me some railroad earth, not sure if i would call them "great" though. and I definitely agree with today's good might be tomorrow's great and standing out in a sea of mediocrity
It's much more difficult to attain greatness today IMO but who knows how these groups will be viewed decades from now. The sheer volume of stuff available today is just too much and much of it sounds alike. As soon as a sounds comes out it's copied by hundreds of bands.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:34 pm to el Gaucho
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jason boland, randy rogers band, hays carll, and the gourds
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there no "great" music anymore?
i love me some railroad earth, not sure if i would call them "great" though
Depends on your definition of great. Do I think they are great yet? No.
Do I think they have the potential to grow a following that we haven't seen since Jerry Garcia died? Yes
Only time will tell however.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:37 pm to CottonWasKing
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I love zeppelin but I rarely listen to them much anymore. I think I love them more for the doors they openened up to me musically than anything else.
Not saying they weren't absolutely amazing cause they were but I'm just merely tired of hearing them.
i'm exactly the same way... when you grow up in baton rouge listening to eagle 98.1 and hear the same 10 zeppelin songs played on the radio everyday you get tired of it
shoot, even if i was an immigrant or something and i was hearing them for the first time, sure i'd think it kicked arse but i would probably switch to something with a little more fiddle and such pretty quick
but to say led zeppelin and the other bands mentioned aren't way up high as the greatest bands of all time is foolish. and even 30 years from now i don't think any of these bands today will be ranked up with them, even after today's rankers give way to a new generation
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:39 pm to el Gaucho
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but to say led zeppelin and the other bands mentioned aren't way up high as the greatest bands of all time is foolish. and even 30 years from now i don't think any of these bands today will be ranked up with them, even after today's rankers give way to a new generation
It will take a few generations for that to happen. Our generation has been ingrained with the idea that they are the be all and end all of great music and that will carry over to our children more likely than not.
ETA: I thought for the longest time that Pat Green would be our next "GREAT" country musician. I'm pretty sure I turned out to be wrong though.
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:43 pm to CottonWasKing
The Sheepdogs are about to bring rock and roll back 
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's much more difficult to attain greatness today IMO
my argument is that it today it should be easier to attain greatness. any one of us could get comparable to or better gear and recording stuff than the greats had for a few thousand due to advances in manufacturing. the production you can do on a regular laptop is far better than anything phil spector or any other producer had back in those days. you can find bandmates a million different ways from as far away as you want and the greats couldn't. and you can learn an instrument and all the tricks off the internet whereas the greats had to figure it out by themselves.
and most of all you can get your music out to anyone in the world for free.
i dont think greatness means driving solid gold cadillacs and all that. a lot of the guys considered great today didn't even make a lot of money off of what they put out (velvet underground for instance)
the music makers these days have all the advantages in the world but they lack the heart and songcraft skills of the greats i think
it could be that there's not really any money anymore. to find the big bucks as a new band these days you pretty much hafta appeal to the lowest common denominator
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:47 pm to CottonWasKing
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ETA: I thought for the longest time that Pat Green would be our next "GREAT" country musician. I'm pretty sure I turned out to be wrong though.
poor pat green
he used to make a buncha good music and then he tried to go nashville, i guess to make those keith urban bucks, and nashville spit him out and all his old fans went all "frick pat green" on him
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:47 pm to Govt Tide
One aspect of this topic that hasn't been discussed and which further confirms the pinnacle that was the 60's is black music from back then... i.e. MOTOWN.
Motown and Tamla and such used to make me feel connected to my black brethren. This new rap, bebop, funk, or whatever the hell you call it shite alienates me.
Motown and Tamla and such used to make me feel connected to my black brethren. This new rap, bebop, funk, or whatever the hell you call it shite alienates me.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:47 pm to el Gaucho
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the music makers these days have all the advantages in the world but they lack the heart and songcraft skills of the greats i think
When hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of songs have been written (both lyrics and melody) it's difficult to be original anymore.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:49 pm to el Gaucho
Those same things you call advantages are what I call disadvantages.
There is SO MUCH quality music out there now that no one is capable of standing above the rest. Everyone below the age of 40 has carved out their own little niche in the music that they enjoy. Its so easy to find good music today that a lot of potential greats get ignored.
There is SO MUCH quality music out there now that no one is capable of standing above the rest. Everyone below the age of 40 has carved out their own little niche in the music that they enjoy. Its so easy to find good music today that a lot of potential greats get ignored.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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When hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of songs have been written (both lyrics and melody) it's difficult to be original anymore.
That's a good point, actually. Sometimes I feel like all the best melodies possible have already been written.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 5:04 pm to el Gaucho
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i'm saying that i don't think there are any bands as good as those way back when bands anymore
Music, just like any form of art, is a matter of opinion. Art progresses over time because people want change and crave new things.
You think there's no "great" music anymore because no one has developed a sound since your musical peak that has topped it. That's it. It has nothing to do with anything other than that.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 5:05 pm to Projectpat
are you trying to tell me project pat is better than led zeppelin?
Posted on 5/3/12 at 5:08 pm to Rex
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When hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of songs have been written (both lyrics and melody) it's difficult to be original anymore.
That's a good point, actually. Sometimes I feel like all the best melodies possible have already been written.
Yeah, and you have to weed through a lot of shite to find a gem.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 5:08 pm to Projectpat
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Music, just like any form of art, is a matter of opinion. Art progresses over time because people want change and crave new things.
You think there's no "great" music anymore because no one has developed a sound since your musical peak that has topped it. That's it. It has nothing to do with anything other than that.
+1000
Having an argument about what makes "great" music is based on personal preference and therefore pointless.
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