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What factors determine what you consider to be "good music" or a good artist?

Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:29 am
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22902 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:29 am
For music, I used to be driven solely off of the sound of a song, i.e. absent any lyrics, does the song sound good? As I have gotten older, that has changed to be more lyric-oriented. A good sounding song will grab my attention, but if the lyrics are overtly terrible, it doesn't really matter to me how the song sounds. Historically, I have leaned toward songs that tell a story, and while I don't particularly consider country music one of my favorite genres, I like old country songs that tell a story or narrative.

As far as artists go, I tend to drift toward singer-songwriters, artists who can play (or have played) multiple genres, or artists who excel at their instruments. I also usually evaluate a song or album by wondering if it is something I could have come up with or done. I don't mind a simple catchy pop tune, but I think that is why I tend to hate new music. It is typically over-produced and doesn't hinge on raw talent most times, where I feel like if I had the same equipment, I could come up with this shite.

What are some things you consider when you determine whether or not you like a song, album, or musician?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55616 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:36 am to
Noodling and heroin use.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22902 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:42 am to
Sólido.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39195 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:48 am to
If I like it then its good. Its really that simple.
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:57 am to
I require orchestra strikes and finger tapping guitar solos.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:40 am to
Versatility is a big factor. I like to see a musician be able to play in a lot of different styles. Warren Haynes is a good example. He can play bluesy, he can rock, he can play funky, he can fret or play slide, he can play with his fingers or use a pick, he can play in different tunings.

Expressiveness is another one. I like a guy who can make his instrument his voice and make you feel his emotion. Jeff Beck is my example of this, look no further than Cause We've Ended As Lovers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260497 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:03 am to
If I like it.

Could be the music, could be the lyrics, could just be a memory.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:05 am to
The attractiveness of the singer.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20830 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:06 am to
Tool is my favorite band so if there aren't at least 8 time signature changes in a song, then I don't even bother listening.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:29 am to
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If I like it then its good. Its really that simple.




I've never understood the idea that food/movies/music has to be objective.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65914 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:37 am to
quote:

If I like it then its good. Its really that simple.


well, there you have it.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22902 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:39 am to
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I've never understood the idea that food/movies/music has to be objective.


We have to judge bad music.
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:52 am to
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The attractiveness of the singer.

Yes! I like them to resemble hookers. That way it doesn't matter if the music is any good or not. In fact I prefer the music itself to kinda suck. And when somebody says my preferred artist is terrible, I can play my only card and ask why she makes them so mad. That makes me feel pretty cool.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:52 am to
I like rawness. Just like pearls are valuable for their flaws, I think music is, too. I want to see the seams of creation, and I think we learn about what a musician is trying to say by what flaws they choose to expose.

I'm drawn to lo fi production, ragged vocals, and simple chord structures. I view pop music like folk music: it is to be made by and for the people. If it is not something that cannot be recreated by four kids in a garage, I'm probably not all that interested.

Music is about passion. It is also about communal experience. I do pay attention to lyrics, but I can love a song with banal or nonsense lyrics. I love that breakdown between performer and audience, and as the Minutemen sang, "Our band could be your life."
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:55 am to
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ask why she makes them so mad. That makes me feel pretty cool.


This guy gets it. It also helps if she sold a bunch of records cause you can be all like "she sold this many records so she is good at music and you don't have good music tastes and shite". Then it's checkmate.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:21 pm to
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when somebody says my preferred artist is terrible, I can


I look at them and say "I don't really care what you think."

That's my only card.

edit: sometimes I say "I don't really care what you think because you are an arrogant douchebag"
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:25 pm to
Write their own music
Play their own instruments
DGAF if they make thousands or millions
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 5:19 pm to
Is the guitar bad arse and heavy, yet original and are there often dueling guitars (if a 4 piece or more)? *Bands I like with best guitar sound range from Def Leppard to Sponge to Joe Walsh to Pantera.

Albums have to be a priority -- as in does the album have a flow that takes you out of reality? Examples: Rush "Moving Pictures" or Jane's Addiction "Ritual" or King's X "Gretchen Goes to Nebraska" or Pink Floyd "Darkside of the Moon"

Are the lyrics profound and can the back-up vocal guy mesh well with the lead vocalist? Harmonies are great ala King's X, Alice in Chains, The Doobie Brothers, Grand Funk RR, The Beatles, etc.

Does the rhythm section make your sound system sound like perfection? Rush, Led Zeppelin, Helmet, King's X, Jane's Addiction, and The Police come to mind for me here.

Does the artist do an array of stuff without being obnoxious about it? Can they sound like 3-4 bands on one album (musically, not vocally)...The Police, The Church, Depeche Mode and Living Colour come to mind.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 5:20 pm
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