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re: The official Frank Zappa discussion thread

Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:09 am to
Posted by ChoupiqueSacalait
9th Ward
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:09 am to
I'm a big fan of his chilled out, instrumental jams like Black Napkins and Watermelon In Easter Hay

Also, I think I've seen every interview of his that's ever been posted to youtube. He had a brilliant mind and did not suffer fools.

Various T.V. interviews
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:15 am to
"Concentration Moon":
LINK

…"American Way, prisoner lock/smash every creep in the face with a rock."
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:29 am to
I'm pretty sure that song is about the Japanese internment camps. It's a pretty interesting part of history that gets glossed over by most American history classes. Zappa was great at social criticism.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12357 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

If anyone knows some good live stuff on youtube, please post it for me.


Barcelona 1988

Great horn section for this one, excellent show.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
Ron Don Volante's PlayPen
Member since Jul 2011
6705 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:36 am to
No love for Joe's Garage?
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:59 am to
Zappa is someone many of my friends have gotten into over the years, and I feel like i should have, but I just never could (kinda like Captain Beefheart.. surprise)..

It's been years since I've given him a go... whats the best jumping off point (recorded, not live)?
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:05 am to
quote:

It's been years since I've given him a go... whats the best jumping off point (recorded, not live)?

Probably either Apostrophe or Overnight Sensation.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:19 am to
quote:

whats the best jumping off point (recorded, not live)?

We're Only In It For The Money--maybe too 60s-flavored for the younger crowd, but it's rock satire at its best, regardless of era or generation.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19440 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:36 am to
I'd agree with the Apostrophe suggestion

Probably his most accessible and arguably best album

I like One Size Fits All a lot too but it's a bit more challenging of a listen
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:57 am to
If you look at his discography, it is ridiculous how fast he was putting albums out in the late 60s thru the 80s.....2 and sometimes 3 albums a year.

Here is an hour and a half of the UNT One O'Clock Lab Band and Tommy Mars covering Zappa. It's a jazz treatment of Frank.

LINK
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:27 pm to
Someone earlier said that Zappa did not suffer fools gladly. This is quite true. But he also had an even lower tolerance for poor musicians. Say what you will about the music itself, I don't think anyone can deny that he played with some outstanding talent.

Some of the musicians he played with:
George Duke
Napolean Murphy Brock
Jean-Luc Ponty
Steve Vai
Terry Bozzio
Patrick O'Hearn
Eddie Jobson
Vinnie Colaiuta
Aynsley Dunbar

Not to mention Don Pardo.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19440 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:41 pm to
Shuggie Otis
Lowell George and Roy Estrada from Little Feat
Adrian Belew from Talking Heads
Jack Bruce
Tina Turner

There are a couple others I can't remember right now
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:20 pm to
There was an interview with him that I was watching where he was talking about his singing ability (or lack thereof). He made a joke that he couldn't even sing well enough to make his own band.

He definitely had high standards for the musicians that he allowed to play in his band. When he went on the road it was all business for him. I've heard about him and drugs and alcohol. He would say that he didn't care what they did at home, but if they brought it on the road with them and it affected the musical product then he wouldn't hesitate to kick people off tour.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19440 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 3:26 pm to
An awesome story from Adrian Belew's blog about him, Zappa, Iggy Pop, and Bowie in Germany during Bowie/Eno's Berlin Trilogy days:

quote:

Uneasy Meetings with Gods
part one.

place: a Frank Zappa concert in
Cologne, Germany 2/14/1978
my first tour of europe ever and
as a member the frank zappa band.
although I wasn't aware, this night
brian eno is in the audience.
next day eno calls david bowie
knowing david
is looking for a new guitarist.

Berlin, Germany 2/15/1978
the following night david comes
to the show ostensibly to see me play.
there is a break in the show where I
normally leave the stage while frank
plays an extended guitar solo.
as I'm leaving I glance over
to the monitor board. I'm shocked to see david bowie and iggy pop!
I walk over, shaking david's hand I say, "I've always loved your music".
"great", he says, "how'd you like to join my band?!"
"well, I'm playing with this guy right now..." I stammer, pointing to frank.
"yes, I know, but your tour ends in two weeks and mine begins two weeks later."
we agree to meet back at the hotel after the show.

what followed was like something out of a spy film. david and his assistant coco tried to rendezvous with me without letting anyone in on our little "secret". I suppose the idea was to avoid letting frank know I was being wooed away from his band. I was too dumb to notice. at one point, david, coco, and I stepped into the hotel elevator when no one was around. whispering, coco said, "we have a car out front. we'll meet you there in ten minutes."
david wanted to take me to one of his favorite restaurants to discuss my future. he had lived in berlin for several years. so his driver set off with the three of us in the back madly chatting about songs we'd play and places we'd go. we pulled up to a nice looking restaurant and walked in.
at the table right in front of us sat frank and some of the band!
the jig was up as they say.
can you imagine? how many restaurants are there in berlin?
so we invited ourselves to join them at their table.
feeling slightly uncomfortable david tried to engage frank in friendly discourse.
david said, "really enjoyed the show".
frank shot back, "frick you captain tom".
"c'mon frank, we can be adults about this, can't we?" david replied.
"frick you captain tom."
"no, really I'd like to talk."
no matter what david tried, frank kept saying, "frick you captain tom."
so we left the restaurant.
outside david said,
"that went down rather well, didn't it?"
david, coco, and I spent the rest of the evening at an authentic 1920's private cabaret. david knew the owner and we had a wonderful time. some kind of girls gave us a show. the marlena dietrich owner of the club awarded me a lifetime membership card.

a few days later as frank sat at the back of a bus we were riding I approached him. I knew frank was planning on editing his movie baby snakes after the tour which would take perhaps 3 or 4 months. I explained it might make more sense for me to tour with david during that time rather than languish on frank's payroll. in his customarily frank fashion he reached out, shook my hand, and wished me luck.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 3:56 pm to


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