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The Band - The Night They Drove Ole Dixie Down
Posted on 8/24/17 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 8/24/17 at 8:21 pm
The Night They Drove Ole Dixie Down My Peoples
Posted on 8/24/17 at 9:25 pm to Zappas Stache
I'm just about 40 years late to the discussion. Why did they "retire" in 1976? Did Robertson and Helm hate each other? Drugs?
Posted on 8/24/17 at 9:44 pm to Mulat
quote:I'm triggered you white nationalist POS
The Night They Drove Ole Dixie Down
BTW here is priceless footage of 19 year old Levon Helm with the Hawks in 1959:
Ronnie Hawkins - "Forty Days"
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:02 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:The Last Waltz was RR's idea. The others were willing to simply put The Band on hiatus for awhile but RR insisted it be a supercolossal This-Is-It Hollywood Grand Finale.
I'm just about 40 years late to the discussion. Why did they "retire" in 1976? Did Robertson and Helm hate each other? Drugs?
Helm only wanted two special guests: Ronnie Hawkins and Bob Dylan. RR however insisted on including everybody and his brother, even someone like Neil Diamond who had nothing to do with The Band.
Al this was done to get the maximum of publicity for the concert film. RR had been doing coke with Martin Scorcese, who convinced him he could be a movie star. The Last Waltz was essentially RR's glorified screen test -- that's why he's on camera so much, and shown singing even though his mike was disconnected.
The story goes that Helm and Ronnie Hawkins first saw a pre-release screening of TLW on the Warners lot. After the screening the lights came on but Helm just sat in his chair, speechless. But the inimitable Hawkins just laughed it off, telling Helm something like, "You have to admit Levon, Robbie never sounded better!"
Posted on 8/24/17 at 11:05 pm to Kafka
When they were worried about how long the show was and they had too many guests, Levon told the stage manager to " tell Robertson to tell Neil Diamond we don't even know who the frick he is."
My favorite Levon story, and I love Neil Diamond.
My favorite Levon story, and I love Neil Diamond.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:27 am to Mulat
I just saw Levon playing a role in a Markie Mark movie, Shooter or something like that.
Catch that doc about Levon. Ain't In it For My Health. Great program.
Catch that doc about Levon. Ain't In it For My Health. Great program.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:50 am to Kafka
quote:
I'm triggered you white nationalist POS
Boy you got me for sure
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:24 am to Mulat
Isn't that thr group jason isbell wrote danko manuel about?
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:43 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
Why did they "retire" in 1976?
They weren't getting along - not just Helm and Robertson.
quote:
Did Robertson and Helm hate each other?
Helm hated Robertson - a lot - and for a shite ton of good reasons.
quote:
Drugs?
They were rock stars in the '60s and '70s. Neil Young has visible grains of cocaine in his nose during The Last Waltz. Marty was providing that shite like it was candy or part of the caterer service.
What do you think?
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:45 pm to thejudge
If you want a good, quick read on Levon, The Band, pick up his biography This Wheels On Fire
It's obviously his side of the story, but anyone that knows even just a little about The Band is already on Levon's team.
It's obviously his side of the story, but anyone that knows even just a little about The Band is already on Levon's team.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:46 pm to Kafka
quote:
Al this was done to get the maximum of publicity for the concert film. RR had been doing coke with Martin Scorcese, who convinced him he could be a movie star. The Last Waltz was essentially RR's glorified screen test -- that's why he's on camera so much, and shown singing even though his mike was disconnected.
I'm not sure it was disconnected, but the live takes of the vocals for the fellas were pretty bad, except for Levon. They had to re-record most of them in post-production. Some of the instrument tracks, too.
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But the inimitable Hawkins just laughed it off, telling Helm something like, "You have to admit Levon, Robbie never sounded better!"
Some version of this is almost certainly true.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:49 pm to thejudge
quote:
Isn't that thr group jason isbell wrote danko manuel about?
Yes Richard Manuel,piano, vocals, hung himself in a Hotel Room in 1986 after a show
Rick Danko, bass, vocals, died of substance abuse complications in 1999
ETA: If you enjoy Isbell dig into The Band. Isbell almost certainly doesn't exist without The Band's influence.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:56 pm to Ace Midnight
Even though it's always in the discussions of best rock documentary, once you know the back story of The Last Waltz, you begin to realize it's really not that good. Here's a fun article on the show - LINK
I'm going to be up around Woodstock in a few, I hope to head over to West Saugerties and drive passed the Big Pink house.
I'm going to be up around Woodstock in a few, I hope to head over to West Saugerties and drive passed the Big Pink house.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:00 pm to CottonWasKing
Before hooking up with Bob Dylan - the precursor bands centered around Ronnie Hawkins, Levon Helm or both - and try to wrap your mind around this what if:
In early 1960, Scott Cushie was still playing the piano when they added Winnsboro's own Fred Carter, Jr. on guitar and Canadian Robbie Robertson on bass. Carter didn't last and Ronnie brought in his cousin Dale's guitar player to take over, temporarily and tutor Robertson on the guitar, which he did and then returned to the United States.
That guitar player was Roy Buchanan.
(What if he had decided to stay as guitar player and left Robertson on bass where he belonged?)
In early 1960, Scott Cushie was still playing the piano when they added Winnsboro's own Fred Carter, Jr. on guitar and Canadian Robbie Robertson on bass. Carter didn't last and Ronnie brought in his cousin Dale's guitar player to take over, temporarily and tutor Robertson on the guitar, which he did and then returned to the United States.
That guitar player was Roy Buchanan.
(What if he had decided to stay as guitar player and left Robertson on bass where he belonged?)
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:38 pm to Ace Midnight
... likely RR would have still penned everything in his name. Just one side, but in the flick 'Ain't In it For My Health.'
quote:Levon really goes off on how Robertson didn't know noth'n, how they taught him about music down here and the south, and then he put his name on what everyone was a part of.... Would be cool to know the whole tale. ETA: and his hatred for the suits (music exec's - the music industry)
thanks to Twenty 49, for the name
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:43 pm to awestruck
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but in the flick 'Ain't In it For My Health.'
Watched it. I've been #TeamLevon since The Right Stuff, baw.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:50 pm to Ace Midnight
Pretty secure type, he took the money, and said I've had enough... Like another of my hero's, John Hartford who after making a bushel full, decided he rather just keep playing music his way.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 7:37 pm to awestruck
Robbie was making all the money. He got a share of the performer's cut, plus he got songwriting royalties.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:46 am to FightinTigersDammit
RR is a flaming a-hole.
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