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More quintessential prog band: Yes or King Crimson?

Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
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Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:03 pm
I've been in a serious prog mood lately, so I've been jamming these two a lot. I feel like King Crimson is the standard of a prog band, but "Close to the Edge" by Yes is the quintessential prog album. What do y'all think?
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:09 pm to
Yes
Posted by ddbnsb
Raised in New Orleans
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Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:17 pm to
for me? YES
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:43 pm to
I like Yes better, but they're both top 5 all time prog bands. Can't go wrong.

King Crimson was putting out better stuff much longer than Yes (early-mid 80s, both started late 60s), but I don't think KC put out anything as good as Close to the Edge or even Fragile
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:55 pm to
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King Crimson was putting out better stuff much longer than Yes

Yes had a lot of lineup changes, and probably shouldn´t have done some of those later albums.
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/24/16 at 11:14 pm to
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What do y'all think?


I'm indifferent about either band. Yes' vocals never appealed to me, and I've never taken the time to fully explore King Crimson's discography.

However, the latter had a greater influence on Tool. Therefore, I have a bit of preference for their contributions to progressive music.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 2:29 am to
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Yes' vocals never appealed to me,
Coolidge was a big time fan of Yes. He would listen to them constantly. I used to give him crap about Jon Anderson's whiny voice. To this day I can't listen to more than one Yes song at a time because I don't care for the vocals.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:36 pm to
Yes
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:54 pm to
YES.....they were amazing live as well
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:57 pm to
I think Yes was more approachable but probably for that reason, King Crimson was more progressive.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 2:00 pm to
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but I don't think KC put out anything as good as Close to the Edge or even Fragile



Think again.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19440 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 7:19 pm to
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Coolidge was a big time fan of Yes. He would listen to them constantly. I used to give him crap about Jon Anderson's whiny voice. To this day I can't listen to more than one Yes song at a time because I don't care for the vocals.
This is the main reason I can't stand Rush
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
1969 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 8:29 pm to
What is it with prog bands and annoying singers? It took me a while to get into Mars Volta bc of the dudes voice.
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
4066 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 9:27 pm to
KC Timeline

King Crimson's history is nothing but lineup changes-of course with the exception of Robert Fripp. Fripp is KC.

BTW, I like both equally. Yes is more melodic while KC is a bit more experimental.

In the Court of the Crimson King (October 1969) really kickstarted prog rock but there were several prog/experimental albums before that (Zappa -Hot Rats, The Nice-The Nice, Yes-Yes, Tony Williams Lifetime-Emergency, Soft Machine-Soft Machine) among others.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 7:21 am to
Yes
Posted by randybobandy
NOLA
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:02 am to
I like both bands a lot, but nothing stirs my soul like Discipline and In the Court of the Crimson King. Both are masterpieces IMO.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:47 am to
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Discipline

The Adrian Belew era of King Crimson was by far the best in my opinion.
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:12 am to
I think Yes reached higher highs, but also lower lows (IMO of course)...so while I'd give the nod to Yes, I fully admit they've had some bigger duds in their catalog than King Crimson did.

I've read a few bios about Yes over the years, and I've concluded that they might've had some of the worst band management around, from both their record labels and own handlers. For years, they succeeded in spite of it, but all the behind-the-scenes decisions since the Union tour finally destroyed any momentum they had left. The Union album itself was another management frickup, but the tour actually righted that wrong somewhat, only for them to interfere again and splinter everything. I guess my point is, Yes might've been looked at much differently, had their last 20-something years not been such wasted opportunities...
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 10:13 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:07 am to
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The Adrian Belew era of King Crimson was by far the best in my opinion.



I can't get into Belew era KC like I can pre-Belew.

I appreciate it, and I enjoy it for the most part, but -60s/'70s KC could do no wrong.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:51 am to
Yes
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