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More quintessential prog band: Yes or King Crimson?
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:03 pm
I've been in a serious prog mood lately, so I've been jamming these two a lot. I feel like King Crimson is the standard of a prog band, but "Close to the Edge" by Yes is the quintessential prog album. What do y'all think?
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:43 pm to Bout_Dat_Lyfe
I like Yes better, but they're both top 5 all time prog bands. Can't go wrong.
King Crimson was putting out better stuff much longer than Yes (early-mid 80s, both started late 60s), but I don't think KC put out anything as good as Close to the Edge or even Fragile
King Crimson was putting out better stuff much longer than Yes (early-mid 80s, both started late 60s), but I don't think KC put out anything as good as Close to the Edge or even Fragile
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:55 pm to danman6336
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King Crimson was putting out better stuff much longer than Yes
Yes had a lot of lineup changes, and probably shouldn´t have done some of those later albums.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 11:14 pm to Bout_Dat_Lyfe
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What do y'all think?
I'm indifferent about either band. Yes' vocals never appealed to me, and I've never taken the time to fully explore King Crimson's discography.
However, the latter had a greater influence on Tool. Therefore, I have a bit of preference for their contributions to progressive music.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 2:29 am to saint amant steve
quote:Coolidge was a big time fan of Yes. He would listen to them constantly. I used to give him crap about Jon Anderson's whiny voice. To this day I can't listen to more than one Yes song at a time because I don't care for the vocals.
Yes' vocals never appealed to me,
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:54 pm to Marco Esquandolas
YES.....they were amazing live as well
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:57 pm to Bout_Dat_Lyfe
I think Yes was more approachable but probably for that reason, King Crimson was more progressive.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 2:00 pm to danman6336
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but I don't think KC put out anything as good as Close to the Edge or even Fragile
Think again.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 7:19 pm to Poodlebrain
quote:This is the main reason I can't stand Rush
Coolidge was a big time fan of Yes. He would listen to them constantly. I used to give him crap about Jon Anderson's whiny voice. To this day I can't listen to more than one Yes song at a time because I don't care for the vocals.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 8:29 pm to danman6336
What is it with prog bands and annoying singers? It took me a while to get into Mars Volta bc of the dudes voice.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 9:27 pm to Dandy Lion
KC Timeline
King Crimson's history is nothing but lineup changes-of course with the exception of Robert Fripp. Fripp is KC.
BTW, I like both equally. Yes is more melodic while KC is a bit more experimental.
In the Court of the Crimson King (October 1969) really kickstarted prog rock but there were several prog/experimental albums before that (Zappa -Hot Rats, The Nice-The Nice, Yes-Yes, Tony Williams Lifetime-Emergency, Soft Machine-Soft Machine) among others.
King Crimson's history is nothing but lineup changes-of course with the exception of Robert Fripp. Fripp is KC.
BTW, I like both equally. Yes is more melodic while KC is a bit more experimental.
In the Court of the Crimson King (October 1969) really kickstarted prog rock but there were several prog/experimental albums before that (Zappa -Hot Rats, The Nice-The Nice, Yes-Yes, Tony Williams Lifetime-Emergency, Soft Machine-Soft Machine) among others.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:02 am to ThePTExperience1969
I like both bands a lot, but nothing stirs my soul like Discipline and In the Court of the Crimson King. Both are masterpieces IMO.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:47 am to randybobandy
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Discipline
The Adrian Belew era of King Crimson was by far the best in my opinion.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:12 am to Bout_Dat_Lyfe
I think Yes reached higher highs, but also lower lows (IMO of course)...so while I'd give the nod to Yes, I fully admit they've had some bigger duds in their catalog than King Crimson did.
I've read a few bios about Yes over the years, and I've concluded that they might've had some of the worst band management around, from both their record labels and own handlers. For years, they succeeded in spite of it, but all the behind-the-scenes decisions since the Union tour finally destroyed any momentum they had left. The Union album itself was another management frickup, but the tour actually righted that wrong somewhat, only for them to interfere again and splinter everything. I guess my point is, Yes might've been looked at much differently, had their last 20-something years not been such wasted opportunities...
I've read a few bios about Yes over the years, and I've concluded that they might've had some of the worst band management around, from both their record labels and own handlers. For years, they succeeded in spite of it, but all the behind-the-scenes decisions since the Union tour finally destroyed any momentum they had left. The Union album itself was another management frickup, but the tour actually righted that wrong somewhat, only for them to interfere again and splinter everything. I guess my point is, Yes might've been looked at much differently, had their last 20-something years not been such wasted opportunities...
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:07 am to MountainTiger
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The Adrian Belew era of King Crimson was by far the best in my opinion.
I can't get into Belew era KC like I can pre-Belew.
I appreciate it, and I enjoy it for the most part, but -60s/'70s KC could do no wrong.
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